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WarCry Choice  Posts: 1986 Joined: 29 Jan 2004 | Dana "Lepidus" Massey |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 | Could someone point out the difference between this journal and every other journal this piss poor excuse for a pr team has released? Imo, warcry, you guys should disown darkfall. If beta or any new piece of information reaches us before 2009 i will be increadibly surprised. |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | nvm lol hes cool |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 | Teedle is a pawn rented by blizzard, trading in the old vapourware argument. I am concerned with thier unwillingness to give us some new info. Please point out where the new info here is. If you cant my point is valid. |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | theres alot of new info in the 4 pages there... |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 | They have been saying soon since '03. What makes you so certain it will be by june? |
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Posts: 1 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 |
Firstly, Darkfall does not have a PR team - it is not being developed by some huge corporation with millions to spare as is the case with your more mediocre, shallow games like AoC.
Tasos goes into detail about their progress in terms of publishers and reveals that they are likely to self publish in at least one 'territory'. This is big news incase you were unaware and shows they have moved on from last time this was mentioned, when he made it aparent they were undecided. Although there may not be any 'new info' in terms of revealing some unexpected new feature or something, Tasos obviously reads the DF forums and answers the questions as directly as he can. |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | what new features? there all in msotly except for the 2 he mention that wont make release. |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 |
I know that they are a small team but the fact of the matter is when you showcase your product to the public either in advertisement or actual sales, that process is called PR (Public Relations). Wheather or not tasos has a sign on his door saying PR team i dont know/care. The point is, he is handling the pr for that company.
That was not in detail and as far as i know they have had the capability and inclination to self publish anyway. I am not asking for a detailed list of skills, spells and stuff like that every other week. I want detailed information on how thier internal beta is progresing. I meant to say that they have had the inclination to self publish anyway since 2003 |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 28 Mar 2008 |
You never answered my question. And i never mentioned anything about new features. |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | seems to me its going fine |
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Posts: 12 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 | I really liked the read and will probably reread in a while. I hate to speculate what beta ASAP means because, I was burned by this in early fall when they kept saying "soon". I liked that they quit using the word because it felt like they were cowing us into a fervor. I think that what they are saying is more sincere. P.S. If you never went to the forums I would strongly encourage you to look at the huge base of forum members that are on at any given time... it is stronger than some games that are out! |
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WarCry Choice  Posts: 866 Joined: 25 Apr 2004 | Very nice article, if Darkfall actually holds true to its promises, the game will be a huge success. |
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Posts: 11 Joined: 28 Jun 2007 | I liked this article. Unlike some inpatient people here, I don't expect beta to be coming out this year and have no idea when the release will ever come but at the very least I am seeing significant improvements so I'm pleased. I believe the first page had the most new information and everything else is repetitive. I am glad to hear more detailed info on the PC reqs..and the actual size of the world. Not wanting to describe the crafting system "more than we already have", basically means you don't want to tell us anything because we don't know much except that it's like UO but everything can be crafted.. but what's "everything" I guess we need to wait for the game to come out whenever that will be. I staunchly disagree with the use of summoned mounts in any way shape or form as well as the ability of not being able to drop items on the ground. These things are pretty significant. UO managed to deal with the item dropping hacks I'm not sure why it can't be done here as well as dealing with the lag. There's a million and 1 reasons why someone would want to drop an item. I liked the story about a typical PvE encounter, it sounds like the AI is very good, although having the protagonist die at the end was a bit disheartening and only reminds me that this is going to be a grief-heavy game 10 times worse than UO already was since the entire "package" of "Darkfall" is being marketed mainly to the PvP crowd unlike UO was. I love the fact that you guys are pushing the envelope and so hard on player freedom. There is a lot of misinformation and opinions full of crap by the so called "mmorpg experts" out there on the reasons why UO failed. Ironically none of them ever played UO pre:R. Only true UO vets such as yourselves can attest to the fact that true player freedom really is the key to great gameplay and fun. I may disagree with you guys on a few ways you're going about actually delivering it, but I'm very excited about this game and the concept overall which is why I've been following it for so long... |
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Posts: 88 Joined: 24 Mar 2007 | This is Tasos' Development Journal. This isn't Tasos' Darkfall Press Release. Tasos has stated before that he doesn't want this to be his press release outlet, he wants it to be a form of visibility between the devs and the fans, not to hype the game, but to collect feedback and show responsiveness. Darkfall is still staying small scale. I agree with Aventurine's business model. Keep the game quiet, and then, when ready, push a PR campaign to draw in subscribers. |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | ang beta will be this year did you miss BETA ASAP they decided to elf publsih in 1 region and they said thell start beta if the other one is going to hold them up for to long |
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Posts: 44 Joined: 3 Sep 2007 |
I'm not getting no elf-published game, thank you :p |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | opps self* |
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Posts: 233 Joined: 11 Aug 2006 |
That's because no one wants to publish what they have. Doesn't take a genious to figure out that if they cannot get a publisher , than what they have is junk in the eyes of all publishers who reviewed it. Dark and Light was forced into "self publishing" too. After reading this journal it really looks like they are starting to get scared of the hype they can never live up to. Taking shots at a game that is 100 levels above what Darkfall will ever be (AoC) isn't going to make Darkfall look like anything more than what it truly is at this point - a 7 year old pipe dream that has not released anything other than some screenshots and a few Alpha videos showing nothing but some PC's running around outdated scenery. Incredible that they actually have the guts to try and compare themselves to a game like conan after they can't even release a Beta to prove that they even have 90% of the features they always brag about. Oh and thanks for including a cool video to look at with ALL THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY you guys have made up until now.. Oh wait , there was none. Nevermind. Maybe one day when they actually grow some balls and decide to show what they actually have behind closed doors they might actually move past the vaporware category.
Ya because everyone knows that you need a beast of a computer to play a game that literally has graphics from 2002. What kind of drugs is this person on? |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | teedle i love you can i get a hug please |
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Posts: 12 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 | Yeah doesn't he know that DF has no lvls? XD "Taking shots at a game that is 100 levels above what Darkfall will ever be (AoC) isn't going to make Darkfall look like anything more than what it truly is at this point" |
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Posts: 16 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 |
Dark and Light had (literally) thousands of graphical and environmental bugs during the beta and the initial release. When the publishers saw this, they obviously distanced themselves from the game. Darkfall is probably having a hard time finding a publisher due to the naturally small size of their development team.
So you're an AoC fan, huh? Like watching those gameplay videos of melee combat? Oh, don't forget those videos of melee combat, and even more melee combat. I'll bet you enjoyed that 7 month delay just 1 month after the game's announced release? I'll bet you enjoyed that shallow and boring "realtime" gameplay that follows suit with WoW? It's laughable that you think AoC holds a candle to Darkfall. AoC will most likely go the way of vanguard by delaying the game a second time right before their release. Oh and thanks for including a cool video to look at with ALL THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY you guys have made up until now.. Oh wait , there was none. Nevermind. As far as 7 years of development, that doesn't mean the game is vaporware. Unless you're willing to call Team Fortress 2 vaporware as well.
Maybe one day you'll actually realize that you really don't have a leg to stand on.
I already addressed that stupid talking point in the last article. The graphics equal or exceed Lord of the Rings Online which was rated one of the most graphically advanced MMO's ever. You seem to know nothing about computers as well. Except how to log onto the internet and troll boards relentlessly. |
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Posts: 52 Joined: 27 Jun 2005 |
No you failed. Try again.
Fail #2. Try again.
Hahaha!! Fail #3. bye bye. You just lost ALL credibility with that one... did he really just say that and beleive it? Is it possible??? Holy fucken DELUSIONAL batman. Please tell me you don't actually BELIEVE anything you just typed up because if you do.. oh man.. you're one sick puppy. Oh and JFY - TF2 was NOT in development for 7 straight years.. it was put on hold.. than they eventually picked it back up and finished it off.
Well it makes no diff to me because I'am in AoC Beta along with thousands of other people so why would it matter? How's Darkfall beta going? Ah ya that's right. There's none. Other than in your head for the last 7 years.. Because this pathetic played out shit stain can barely manage to release it's outdated screenshots let alone have an actual playable Beta after 7 years... I'll bet you enjoy the multiple delays of both RELEASE and BETA from Darkfall since 2001 even more?? Someone should get Tom Cruise into this disaster project. It's got tons of mindless idiots he can recruit into his cult. Looks like they'd be real easy to brainwash too. Darkfall is a amateur pet project. Age of Conan is a huge well funded , publisher ready , professional production that is shown off at many game shows , won many awards , and is being played by tons of people. There's NO comparison. Dream boy. Pretty sad that this game has people like this putz running around the net "representing" it.. Guys like this is one of the reasons why this project has such a bad rap.. Talking straight out of their asses and making up all kinds of crazy bullshit. |
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Posts: 269 Joined: 15 Sep 2007 | epic fail timber |
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Posts: 5 Joined: 30 Mar 2008 |
AoC beta is so fun you prefer to come here and bash an "amateur pet project". If half your bullshit was'nt bullshit, you would'nt even bother to troll here simply because AoC would speak for himself would'nt it? Scared kids are scared. |
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 Posts: 362 Joined: 28 Jul 2004 | LO F-ing L! As usual I see there is some "new" info on Warcry's main page. And as usual there IS NO NEW INFO. Just a bunch of the same F-ing people talking shit. This game will NOT be out in June. Yami, you're an ass-hat for even thinking that. June is 60 days away. You're seriously expecting to see this load by then? That is physicaly impossible. There is no way in the seven levels of hell that they can go from some crappy screenshots to a playable beta version in 60 days(90 days if they wait till 11:59 pm on the 30th of June). If they have some gameplay to show...why not show it? And don't come back with those lame ass videos of walking around an empty village...if I wanted to do that I'd play Vanguard. I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's taking too long. They have been left behind. Whatever engine they used to begin with is so outdated at this point, that they would have to re-code for a new one by now to stay on par with what is already out, let alone what is in development. You cannot hope for this game to be in any way, shape or form remotely competitive with games that are in development that are utilizing DX10. Graphics as good as LOTR? ROFL that pile of man sauce? Lineage 2 STILL looks better than LOTR!! And its what 4 years old already? For a game thats been in development for 7 years it better look a hell of alot better than that. I'll be back end of June to tell you once again... you're an idiot. |
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Posts: 4 Joined: 15 Jul 2007 | Gonna make me go and post on Warcry.. alright. Lets start at the beginning. First of all timberwolve you might want to add more than just you fail to a reply. You know.. actual retorts. You can look at tons of games that have just GREAT screenshots.. hell their beta might even rock you into the ground, but did you not think ahead and realize.. wow closed beta.. not everyone is getting in to that and the game hasn't seen the light of day yet. "Oh but we have played it!!", so? Wait til the cry of the noobs hits it and the company with "great" pr and lots of money to throw around buckles to not only their publishers but the idiots who cry when they get owned. Darkfall might not win in graphics.. theres even the possibility it might never even be released, but if it does the developers are going to stick to their ideas, not buckle to public pressure, and continue to develop a game that fits their ideals. As a secondary note, look at how many times its been mentioned about you trolling the forums. View yourself psychologically and realize that your either A. Interested in this game but are downplaying it so that "in your opinion" your on the safe side of the gamble and can go "I r be telling u so lols!!11!" B. Your not interested enough in AoC to actually focus on it like your supposed to as a closed beta tester and all. I truly hope Aoc sucks you into its gameplay.. that way we won't have one more idiot playing beta to play the game instead of help forge the bugs and problems out of it. Hopefully you will look at this post.. realize that you were replied to in a very calm and intelligent manner.. come up perhaps with a retort that doesn't involve sounding like a 4chan wannabe OR you'll take a look at yourself.. realize what an idiot you've been.. stand in the bathroom and apologize to yourself 10 times and come back as a rational person. Both are acceptable. EDIT: Something extra.. posting more than words can get your ideas stolen. Big ol company can swoop down.. see that the idea is good.. take a look at some videos and get an idea of what your shooting for.. have a fairly good development team on it in a flash and rip the rug straight out from under Darkfall. Regardless of why they are tightfisted with the visual updating I'm absolutely positive they know something you don't.. well most people on this forum probably do but thats besides the point. I'm not trying to shut down your opinions.. your perfectly entitled to them but present them in a fashion in which valid conversation can occur.. not this I'm better than you crap. |
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Posts: 6 Joined: 31 Mar 2008 | Here's a reality check from a real-life software developer. 1) it is not common for developers to publicise their development progress at all. most game development companies don't. most gamers/fans don't have any idea how long it takes to develop a modern game; they just want to play it, and providing info like the DF devs have, gives the more small-minded fans hard-ons and they eventually grow impatient. 2) it's not unusual to change/revise the scope of a game/product to be bigger than the original spec. it just so happens that we, the fans, have born witness to the DF dev's change of plans over the years because they made a conscious decision in 2006 to enlargen the scope of the game, expressly because they had the money to do so. Again, not unusual. 3) given the size & ambitiousness of Darkfall, I don't think the length of the development time is too much of a surprise. that said, looking at their current activities and the quality of the graphics being released it does really look like they are ramping up to a public release. 4) there is nothing worse for developers than to have your game released into a public beta stage because of PR/finance pressures. the resulting negative press that results is stressful beyond belief for all involved. go read about AoC on betaleaks.com -- players are slamming the crap out of it because of all the bugs and features that are missing/partial/bugged to hell. reading between the lines AoC is still quite a long way off. So yeah, I think Darkfall is looking good and I'd be surprised not to see a beta before the middle of the year. |
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Posts: 6 Joined: 31 Mar 2008 |
If you were in AoC beta (I doubt it) you'd know that there are major issues with the game - features missing or only partially implemented, tons of bugs, invisible walls all over the place etc. AoC devs have pushed back release schedules numerous times also. the only crazy bullshit in this forum is coming out your teenage emo mouth. |
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Posts: 17 Joined: 2 Sep 2007 | Plus in AoC, player skill makes up for only 5-10% of victory, according to the beta testers, and even potions are more important than that. And to top it off, their ranged combat is just targeting and firing away, and their revolutionary melee has degenerated into "click the arrows in the correct order every time your cooldown wears off". Sounds fascinating, but I rather wait for DF than go and follow the damn arrows. |
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Posts: 1 Joined: 31 Mar 2008 | Oh dear.. Why are so many bashing Darkfall? Did you get burned by the "BETA soon (tm)" and now want to "make them pay"? Spare the bash, and the praising for that matter, until the game is out. I think that what Aventurine is doing is admirable. That goes for both the game and the development. The game sounds awesome with it's supposedly full freedom and no lvls, etc. It sounds like they've found the things that made "old" games good and implemented it (if what they say is close to the real game). The development is admirable because they're a small scale company and they are taking the BS many people are throwing at them and continues doing things their way. Let the development take its time, I'll sure be waiting. Btw: I got fooled by "BETA soon (tm)" in fall 2006 but the more I read about and from Aventurine the more I admire their work and strive for quality and a finished product instead of quantity and patching/updating/early release in times like these. Btw 2: I really tried to like AoC BETA, I really couldn't. Waste of disc space imo. I'd be suprised if Darkfall disappointed me after its release. |
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Posts: 12 Joined: 17 Oct 2007 | They are payed to flame DF in the hope that some gamers will flock to crappier games. |
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Posts: 162 Joined: 10 Jul 2006 | Nice article... I really hope that my great, great, great, great grandchildren will appreciate all the time that went into making their game. |
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Posts: 3 Joined: 27 Dec 2007 | Largest world... i doubt it. kinda annoying that you say things like your the first with this and that. Get your facts FFS. |
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Posts: 16 Joined: 15 Dec 2007 |
Trolling.
Trolling.
Even more trolling.
You're arguing semantics to avoid conceding the point that TF2 along with several other games that have been in development hell have been in development for as long or longer than Darkfall has.
Yes. This game sucks so much, but you're more than willing to come onto this forum and troll. Please.
No, not really. I'm simply playing other games while I'm waiting.
Wow. Trolling and reported.
So your argument is that money equals quality. Congratulations. You just won the ignorant argument of the month award.
Yes, because you're just a fountain of knowledge about darkfall. How about you just face facts along with the brand new trolls that came along to bash this journal. You're just a bunch of fanboys from AoC, WoW and WAR that want to destroy Darkfall's fanbase by posting irrelevant arguments about how Darkfall is vaporware. |
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Darkfall Dev Journal #24: Full Freedom Gameplay and Substance
We're back! In a brand new developer journal, Darkfall Associate Producer Tasos Flambouras writes about "Full Freedom Gameplay and Substance". This is a lengthy one boys and girls, so buckle in.
Read it all after the leap.
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