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Andraste
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Darkfall Dev Journal #26: Questions Answered

In this week's update, we answer questions from the community. There were also many questions on the public beta and release dates. To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be...

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teedle
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that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks.

Get ready for Dark and light v2.0 with bugs and missing features if that actually happens. Or another missed launch date.

They're kicking this one out the door.

yamisniper
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you going to be eating your words :)
they released vids like that on purpose so yea...

dirtknap
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get ready for a game that is going to blow AoC and warhammer away.

timberwolve
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This is the same guy that said Beta was going to be in 2003. Launch in 2008???

They need at least six months of public Beta testing before launching a MMORPG. There is barely 6 months left in this year.

Why did no one ask which features are actually in the game at this point? Doesn't anyone think that would have been a good question? My guess is most of the promised features are NOT there and they are launching it "as is".

Daedros
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Timberwolve, read Darkfall Dev Journal #25: Philosophy. Here's a quote from it.
"Based on the above, it's conceivable that we may be further along in development than several games in beta, or with announced release dates."
Which is why they don't need a 6 month Public Beta Test.

When DF launches after AoC, AoC is gonna be like the Sega Dreamcast when the Playstation 2 was launched shortly after the Dreamcast was. Almost everyone completely dropped the Sega Dreamcast and started playing a PS 2. Not a whole lot of people even remember the Sega Dreamcast, when almost everyone has heard of PS.
Warhammer Online is not even worth mentioning, especially with EA running it.

Egghaus
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LOTRO had a two month BETA and then the game came out. 6 months wtf?

yamisniper
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plus darkfall is in beta

Shad0wyone
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Before any of you flamers respond to that, it is in beta, just not anybody outside of Aventurine (or it's "close friends" or w/e). It's called Internal Testing.

Personally I'm glad to see that they expect beta to only be couple of weeks, it's not enough to get far into the game, but a lot of people are disappointed to see all their hard work diuring beta to go to waste. Although on the flip side, they might not be able to get to play ALL of the massive world of Agon...

Unbreakable
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It's good to see development is still coming along as smoothly as it is. This journal could have used a few more questions answered, but still. Very informative.

manaburn
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please oh please, teedle, log out, and forget your password. I'm tired of reading your posts, its like reading the same children's novel 20x in a row... instead of replying to the post, I feel the need to tell you to STFU. I must admit, I am weak to the temptation.

Ok, good journal, I like that they are specific, but if they are so specific (internally), then why so vague as 'by the end of 08'? as in they predict september-ish?!

Ah well, I'm VERY happy about the NPC reaction change tho...

Nightfreak
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Oehh nice awnsers with the promise off a lot more

I wonder why you would spends loads of effort into getting an epic quality item, if you can lose it by fucking a pvp battle up only once. Altough you can get the item like that too, so that makes sense :D

Manaburn: then why so vague as 'by the end of 08'? as in they predict september-ish?!

Better this than a hard date they might have to miss if something unexpected happens imo

and rofl teedle, go on to the bitter end ay! i wonder what the other 2 stooges will say :P

timberwolve
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Daedros:
Timberwolve, read Darkfall Dev Journal #25: Philosophy. Here's a quote from it.

I don't care about reading "words". I've been reading "words" from these guys since 2001.

When DF launches after AoC, AoC is gonna be like the Sega Dreamcast when the Playstation 2 was launched shortly after the Dreamcast was. Almost everyone completely dropped the Sega Dreamcast and started playing a PS 2.

ya ok. Based on what? Your blind faith?

If this game is so far along that it could actually launch in 2008 then where the hell is all the media and information?? They couldn't even give a few screenshots in this dev journal!!

All we have to look at from this game are a few shoddy looking alpha videos at best. And you actually believe this guy when he says it's coming out in 2008? God you people are so gullibly retarded.

They have never even shown 1 core element or feature of this game anywhere EVER. Think about THAT one for a second. Never have they shown crafting , never have they shown a siege taking place , never have they shown city building , never have they shown questing , they have never even shown something as simple as fighting a monster for christs sake.

And you think this is going to be out FEATURE COMPLETE in 2008?

plus darkfall is in beta

Please link to proof that Darkfall has a closed beta running right now. A closed beta with people in it besides the Devs and their friends. As far I can remember they announced a beta years ago and people are still waiting for it....

What makes this vague announcement any different??

More string-along tactics.

yamisniper
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timber stfu you have no clue what your even talking about. your goign to so eat yoru words its not even funny if you dont like it just go the fuck away yoru annoying at best

yamisniper
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timberwolve:

Daedros:
Timberwolve, read Darkfall Dev Journal #25: Philosophy. Here's a quote from it.

I don't care about reading "words". I've been reading "words" from these guys since 2001.

When DF launches after AoC, AoC is gonna be like the Sega Dreamcast when the Playstation 2 was launched shortly after the Dreamcast was. Almost everyone completely dropped the Sega Dreamcast and started playing a PS 2.

ya ok. Based on what? Your blind faith?

If this game is so far along that it could actually launch in 2008 then where the hell is all the media and information?? They couldn't even give a few screenshots in this dev journal!!

All we have to look at from this game are a few shoddy looking alpha videos at best. And you actually believe this guy when he says it's coming out in 2008? God you people are so gullibly retarded.

They have never even shown 1 core element or feature of this game anywhere EVER. Think about THAT one for a second. Never have they shown crafting , never have they shown a siege taking place , never have they shown city building , never have they shown questing , they have never even shown something as simple as fighting a monster for christs sake.

And you think this is going to be out FEATURE COMPLETE in 2008?

plus darkfall is in beta

Please link to proof that Darkfall has a closed beta running right now. A closed beta with people in it besides the Devs and their friends. As far I can remember they announced a beta years ago and people are still waiting for it....

What makes this vague announcement any different??

More string-along tactics.

you cry like a lil bitch even if they give screenshots its kinda funny how they string the trolls along just so they can make the trolls look like complete morons later on. im going to die laughing ><
btw whees allt he media for ff13 and versus 13 and a buncha other games that are close to beta like stargate worlds and stuff umm? i dont see anything more than df has so yea you can stfu cry baby bitch

MoonPenguin
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Watch the flaming and swearing, children.

There is no hard proof DarkFall will be out in 2008, only a promise from the same guys that said it would be out years ago.

Additionally, there is no hard proof that it will not be out in 2008.

There is absolutely no point to dragging this into a "My dad could beat up your dad" argument.

Also:
Final Fantasy XIII/Versus XIII/Agito XIII Link: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/
Stargate Worlds: http://www.stargateworlds.com/ - Fall 2008 - Apply for Beta Now. =o

Oh snap!

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weezer
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MoonPenguin:
Also:
Final Fantasy XIII/Versus XIII/Agito XIII Link: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/
Stargate Worlds: http://www.stargateworlds.com/ - Fall 2008 - Apply for Beta Now. =o

Oh snap!

ZOMG! Thread hi-jack!

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Nightfreak
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weezer:

MoonPenguin:
Also:
Final Fantasy XIII/Versus XIII/Agito XIII Link: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/
Stargate Worlds: http://www.stargateworlds.com/ - Fall 2008 - Apply for Beta Now. =o

Oh snap!

ZOMG! Thread hi-jack!

Thats Vaporware clearly ;)

MoonPenguin
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Nightfreak:

weezer:

MoonPenguin:
Also:
Final Fantasy XIII/Versus XIII/Agito XIII Link: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/
Stargate Worlds: http://www.stargateworlds.com/ - Fall 2008 - Apply for Beta Now. =o

Oh snap!

ZOMG! Thread hi-jack!

Thats Vaporware clearly ;)

CLEARLY!

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yaynot
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Running out of time and money = we need to release Darkfall Online in 2008 untested and feature incomplete.

*sniff* *sniff* I smell Shadowbane 2

I guess the most complex MMRPG that's got the biggest feature list ever made is only going to need a beta testing of a few weeks before it's all ready to launch?

wow. amazing stuff.

Arxon Havenloft
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I was only expecting a few weeks of beta honestly so that isn't upsetting to me in the slightest. Most betas that I've been in never lasted longer than a month.

I really wasn't expecting an '08 release date though. I'm hoping that they aren't trying to race it out in order to get the Christmas sales, heh. However, I cannot wait to see the advertisements for Darkfall! This journal was great news for me. Though I would like to see some updated screenshots. If the devs are too busy they can let me on their servers for 3 mins or so and I'll do it!

Unahim
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I hate having to read that they "promised release years ago". That was either an over hyped reaction by fans, or Razorwax. This is not Razorwax, this is aventurine, and they sure ain't responsible for fans misinterpreting stuff.

Anyway, this will probably have been my last post about this game to the not-forumfall community prior to the public beta testing to open up, I can bear those few months without your whining I think, and the simple truth that you've all been nothing but assholes for years will reveal itself to you around that time too I'd imagine.

Don't bother responding to this, because I sure as hell won't be here to read your reply.

Nightfreak
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Arxon Havenloft:
I was only expecting a few weeks of beta honestly so that isn't upsetting to me in the slightest. Most betas that I've been in never lasted longer than a month.

I really wasn't expecting an '08 release date though. I'm hoping that they aren't trying to race it out in order to get the Christmas sales, heh. However, I cannot wait to see the advertisements for Darkfall! This journal was great news for me. Though I would like to see some updated screenshots. If the devs are too busy they can let me on their servers for 3 mins or so and I'll do it!

Im guessing thats going to come with the official announcement including more vids

yaynot
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Arxon Havenloft:
Most betas that I've been in never lasted longer than a month.

Translation -- I've only been in most games Beta's for a month when it was really just a month before the game was released and was just a preview hype for release and not a real Beta.

Warhammer has been in public Beta for months already and is still many months away from release. That's how you do a proper Beta. Age of Conan was in Beta for months with a 100+ man dev team working on it and is still quite buggy.

There is absolutely NO-WAY that a MMORPG that *supposedly* has the feature set that Darkfall has can only have a Beta for a few weeks. It's simply not practical and nearly impossible.

Of course I don't think Darkfall has the majority of those promised features and I don't think it will be in Beta or have a release this year so I guess that point is moot.

Kalia
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Let's all remember to play nice. The last 3-4 threads about Darkfall have ended in thread locking because of the constant (and annoying) chest thumping by both sides. So far everyone's being pretty good doobies. Let's keep it that way.

Add me as your friend so we can earn a BADGE!

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MoonPenguin
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Kalia smells funny.

Yea. I went there.

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Blast5000
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I don't mind if it comes out with half of what they promised. It can't be worst than the actual MMO market. I give aventure the credits they deserved just for thinking of a game like Darkfall. There is certainly more effort put in 7 years of forum posting than in this sort of game that pollutes the MMO market; http://www.roseonlinegame.com/

Nightfreak
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MoonPenguin:
Kalia smells funny.

Yea. I went there.

Maybe she smells funny because you went there ? :O

Disturbing

Kalia
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Completely disturbing. O.o

Ya see? Good natured bantering is ever so much fun.

But....

Don't go there again. :P

Add me as your friend so we can earn a BADGE!

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Nightfreak
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Kalia:
Completely disturbing. O.o

Ya see? Good natured bantering is ever so much fun.

But....

Don't go there again. :P

But but ... once twice three times a lady...

ahh forget it :P

yamisniper
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they are in beta get it throw your thick head how many times do they have to tell you guys.
the playtestign will be techally open beta for them STFU already

teedle
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Thunderous 5/11/08 7:21:36 AM Report Block #113

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Here are some MAJOR concerns about Darkfall:

1.) Why aren' the developers promoting this game more? Why aren't they showing off this game to everyone who can see it to build hype and momentum for the 2008 launch? I mean, they ARE trying to make money, right? The point of developing a game for nearly a decade would be to walk away a millionaire...

2.) Are they the only company in the world with the technology to self-Beta their AI Bots? I've never heard of any other MMO having this ability.

3.) Credibility, If I had spent years developing a game and so many people questioned my credibiliity, or whether my game even exists at all, I would certainly want to prove them wrong with at least some form of the game going public...

Is Darkfall a scam? They don't defend the game much, they don't try to improve their credibility, they don't really do much but put out a dev journal every now and then. I REALLY want to play the "idea" of Darkfall, but so much of my intuition tell me that this is a hoax, a scam, or they just aren't competent. The developers could EASILY prove the doubters wrong by demonstrating a working version of this game, which they claim is feature complete, to anyone.

yamisniper:
they are in beta get it throw your thick head how many times do they have to tell you guys.

Who gives a shit about what they tell anyone? Where's the proof? Their words are about as credible as mine would be if I were giving business advice to Donald Trump.

I'am in Darkfall Beta right now playing. Don't believe me? WHY NOT????

yamisniper
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I dont believe you because why would they let you in lol

Nightfreak
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teedle:

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Thunderous 5/11/08 7:21:36 AM Report Block #113

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Here are some MAJOR concerns about Darkfall:

1.) Why aren' the developers promoting this game more? Why aren't they showing off this game to everyone who can see it to build hype and momentum for the 2008 launch? I mean, they ARE trying to make money, right? The point of developing a game for nearly a decade would be to walk away a millionaire...

2.) Are they the only company in the world with the technology to self-Beta their AI Bots? I've never heard of any other MMO having this ability.

3.) Credibility, If I had spent years developing a game and so many people questioned my credibiliity, or whether my game even exists at all, I would certainly want to prove them wrong with at least some form of the game going public...

Is Darkfall a scam? They don't defend the game much, they don't try to improve their credibility, they don't really do much but put out a dev journal every now and then. I REALLY want to play the "idea" of Darkfall, but so much of my intuition tell me that this is a hoax, a scam, or they just aren't competent. The developers could EASILY prove the doubters wrong by demonstrating a working version of this game, which they claim is feature complete, to anyone.

Who gives a shit about what they tell anyone? Where's the proof? Their words are about as credible as mine would be if I were giving business advice to Donald Trump.

I'am in Darkfall Beta right now playing. Don't believe me? WHY NOT????

Obviously your guy doesnt know much about Major concerns because he only adresses AI bot testing, and PR, nothing essential in there

1. they are not a publishing company and those mostly handle the promoting. This Dev Journal is not the official news upon the game yet and therefor there is no need for an official promotion yet. And even when they promote it, it will never have as big of a campaign as its competitors unless it does get published by a major company with big bucks.

2. Actually every other MMO tests the bots partially on their own, bots in Darkfall will be checked upon an official beta too, the degree of testing might differ a bit and in darkfall the focuss might be more on internal beta than with others but in the end the difference will really not be something huge.

3. Bring a game out is the best proof of credibillity , not posting vids screenshots or other stuff to keep fans happy. I'd be happier playing the game in 2008 than in 2010 because they spend too much time on keeping us informed

Really teedle, try harder , too damn easy to rip these bullshit remarks apart.

yamisniper
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heh teedle gets owned everytime. hell hes even being picked apart over at mmorpg.com too its funny i think he already created another alt >.> tho

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