Darkfall Beginning Beta Sign Ups and...

Darkfall is beginning beta sign ups and is showing off an in-game movie. To all who didn't believe:

Please sign up at http://www.darkfallonline.com/beta/ with your forum username.

Even if you are signed up for a clan beta slot please do this as well, and make sure to list your proper clan name that you are registered with in the forum database or the clan beta database! If you're not in a clan it doesn't matter.

Current banned and suspended users are being reviewed, some will be lifted in the next 24-72 hours.

Some users are experiencing a username/password error, we are working to resolve this now, please be patient, this announcement will be updated when it is fixed.

Please do not make a new account to solve the error, about 570 users were effected by it, we're working to fix your accounts now. I will post an ETA as soon as I have one.

You will not receive a confirmation email when signing up.

If you experience any other problems please PM Brannoc right away!

You can view the TWENTY MINUTE gameplay videos at YouTube. We'll get it here ASAP.

Direct download link:
http://media.darkfallonline.com/Dark...ay_trailer.zip

alternatively the torrent:
http://media.darkfallonline.com/Dark...er.wmv.torrent

On youtube (in 6 parts):
http://www.youtube.com/DarkfallOnline

For those who don't know what to do with a torrent file here are some instructions:

Step1: Get a BitTorrent client. For example uTorrent http://www.utorrent.com/

Step2: After installing the BitTorrent client, click the torrent link I posted to download the torrent file.

Step3: Double-click on the torrent file to open it in your BitTorrent client program.

I'll update this thread with any new information. We just wanted to get this out to you as soon as possible.

Edit: It's Windows Media Player 9 codec

So...what say the unbelievers now? *g*

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Kinda grabs ya by the whoo-hoo

/chong

Yeehaaar!

Teedle? Where are ya, buddy? ;)

Glad to see that they indeed have had their act together. Cool beans and lookin' good. :)

Kalia:
Teedle? Where are ya, buddy? ;)

A WarCry Editor is calling out a troll? Sorry, we kicked him out of the club be we were ashamed of him. You'll probably find him at home, munching on Doritos, staring at his blank computer screen, thinking wistfully of the bygone days of his horrible vaportrolling.

Or maybe he just lost his reason AND will to live, and offed himself. hehehehehehahe One can only hope.

I am right here. And that video is utter crap. It's nothing more than a terribly outdate looking combat simulation. Some of the worste animations I've ever seen. It's just a bunch of poorly animated , poorly modelled characters running around with no obvious purpose.

tripmode 8/30/08 12:22:42 PM Report Block #1
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This video is pitiful - nothing but a bunch of crappy models walking around in a barren landscape one-shotting everything. If you carefully watch the video, you'll notice there is no real combat - no healing, no abilities, no buff or debuff icons, no nothing. Just a few swings of an axe and a force push animation by a caster. Good job guys.

Look at the facts people - this game has been in "development" for 8 years, and not one major publisher has touched it. Why do you think? If it was such a good game, it would be published. Take that at face value.

This game will end up somewhere between Dark and Light and Horizons (and no where near Shadowbane). Good luck with that.

Scoorge 8/30/08 12:27:00 PM Report Block #2
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Sadly i have to admit you could be right..i was quite shocked from that video..its horrible..

Dark and Light is still hard to top lol..cant believe someone will manage to screw up a game again like that.

Scoorge 8/30/08 12:34:53 PM Report Block #4
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Actually i think he talks about the artwork, the horrible char animations, the total lack of atmosphere and yes the graphics do look sub-par (nobody here asks for flashy wow crap)..the whole thing looks like glued together.

i expected much more for all that dev time they had and i think people will be pretty disappointed..its sad, im totally not happy about that fact.

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No. It will not be the next Dark and Light. Main reason being this game will never be lauch. Sad to see it only take a poorly made video to make everyone excited.

tripmode 8/30/08 3:20:47 PM Report Block #10
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This game was hyped as the next TRUE, ruthless pvp game, a la Shadowbane. That was what I was hoping for. But it will never be even close to Shadowbane.

To all the "fans", what is your explanation for the fact that every single publisher has passed on this game. Why do you think that is so?

You don't honestly think this pathetic shit they released would impress anyone other than the deluded fanboys do you?

I have been saying this game is garbage for many years and I am not about to stop now. This game will fail. This video just strengthens that belief.

After 8 years of development they release a "comprehensive" video recording that looks like it was recorded from a game that has been in development for maybe a year or two at most.

If this is "comprehensive" they need to go look up what the word means. This is simply some shoddy scripted video showing nothing but a poor combat simulator. Not a MMORPG.

Man...the complaints are long and loud about no movies ever. Then when one comes out, the complaints are long and loud about how it suxxorx. Sheesh...never happy.

I'm off to the great outdoors!

I'm just glad to witness a small developer from Greece achieve what many big teams/companies failed to do: create a working MMO.

This of course remains to be seen with the upcoming Beta, but nevertheless, it's still a major achievement for the indie scene.

Sigoya:
I'm just glad to witness a small developer from Greece achieve what many big teams/companies failed to do: create a working MMO.

This of course remains to be seen with the upcoming Beta, but nevertheless, it's still a major achievement for the indie scene.

Precisely.

teedle:
I am right here.

Where? I don't see you. Nope. You're not there. You might be somewhere else, but definitely not there.

teedle:
I have been saying this game is garbage for many years and I am not about to stop now.

No, you've been saying the game didn't exist. It's only recently that you've utterly failed at everything and decided to take the "this game is garbage" view. You seem like the kind of person who will declare anathema on something for no reason other than you simply can't admit how much of a joke you are. And I've been around psychiatrists all my life. I know this. They'd have put nicer, but that's what they're paid to do.

teedle:
You don't honestly think this pathetic shit they released would impress anyone other than the deluded fanboys do you?

Have you heard of the term 'pissing into the wind'? It's quite apt right now. The Darkfall section of the MMORPG.com forums, and the official Darkfall forums, are both jam packed with silly numbers of new people checking out the game after having seen the video.

The day before the video release and the commencement of the beta sign-ups, Forumfall had 53,000 members after 6 or 7 years or whatever. Today Forumfall has 66,000 members, an increase of 13,000 over two days!

As Darkfall moves to, and through, beta and release your one voice is going to sound increasingly lonely and isolated. People who like the game won't care what you think. Darkfall is going to grow radically at beta, and again at launch, and the various forums - even at mmorpg dot com - will be taken over by the players and fans.

I have been saying this game is garbage for many years and I am not about to stop now. This game will fail.

You've been saying that over the years because you want that to happen, not because of any logical deduction on your part that leads you to that conclusion. Your claim that Darkfall will fail stems from your desire to see that happen.

The question is, why do you desire it? Do you blame Darkfall, the developers or the fans for the utter failure of your mmo project?

No, you've been saying the game didn't exist.

I don't recall ever saying the game didn't exist. Most people always thought there was/is SOMETHING in development... It was always obvious they were working on SOMETHING.. It's the quality of what they really had that was and still is always in question

The question is, why do you desire it? Do you blame Darkfall, the developers or the fans for the utter failure of your mmo project?

uhhh what? I never followed or even cared about AoC.. or even played it... I did order War already though.. so I suppose you can go ahead and start saying that game sucks too...

Have you heard of the term 'pissing into the wind'?

Have you ever heard of all these games that were all cancelled before launching?

Dragon Empires
UO2
UOX Obyssey
WISH
Gods & Heroes
Mythica

or the countless others that also had a few videos and turned out to be utter crap??

The difference between realists and gullible fanboys is that the realists don't take shit at face value and don't get excited over shoddy looking videos showing nothing more than what looks to be a functioning combat system which everyone knew they had for years already. They've been promising about 100 xxx more than that all these years.

They've been promising what equates to the Holy Grail of MMORPG's...
All I see here is some outdated looking combat simulator with terrible animations...

Where is the promised comprehensive video? Because this is simply another scripted trailer showing no details about how the game actually WORKS from a real players perspective.. This video is just more of the same... just longer and more drawn out. They've already shown Ships Mounts and PvP in other shorter videos. It's nothing new if you really look at what it is.

They show a split second of crafting which is just some model hitting a hammer.. and a split second of some kind of back pack and very limited PvE.

I've been in Warhammer Beta preview and I can safely tell you that if this is all that Darkfall is nobody is going to be playing it over War. The game has more content than WoW , amazingly fun combat , very stable , and on maximum settings makes Darkfall graphics look just plain terrible. I won't even mention Wrath of the Lich King. Both of these are heavy PvP titles.

This game will still fail IF it even gets through a Beta and launches. Be it either by gross instability issues and bugs , or complete lack of content past a combat system , or very low population numbers , or because of Warhammer and WotLK , or all of it combined.

This is the real world. Welcome.

Meridion 8/31/08 6:16:08 AM #6

They STILL don't show any UI, they don't show crafting, skills, housing, RP... All we see is badly animated large scale, STAGED combat.

Dark and Light was exactly like this, they promised sieges, player cities, open PvP, exploration, daytime dependend crafting, hundreds of skills... and released staged gameplay trailers without UI or actual gameplay time after time. You all know how this game ended up...

Meridion

Polarization 8/31/08 5:57:40 AM Report Block #1
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This is the way the Darkfall ends
Not with a beta but a whimper.

*Disclaimer: If you consider me to be a "troll vapor hater" or whatever don't even bother reading this post.

Yes I've seen the highest quality version of the video several times, yes I enjoyed it, and yes I thought it was relatively quite impressive, and no I'm not going to criticize the graphics.

Yes we finally got something substantial, but its taken so many years of development to get to this stage, and we still had to wait 3 months for them to produce it.

After the initial euphoria subsides, hopefully the community will get a bit more realistic and accept the fact there's only 4 months left to publicly beta test and then release this game.

And that constructive criticism is perfectly valid and will be needed as an essential part of the beta process.

There's some things in the video that are good or even very good.

And there's also some things that are at best average or have received mixed responses even from the fans.

But then there's some things that are bad or even very bad.

Will some things be improved or fixed in the next 4 months?, yes of course some probably will be but to expect everything will be in only 4 months is not realistic and is rather naïve.

In my opinion what we see in this video it pretty much essentially the best presentation of what the developers are planning to give us by the end of the year.

The video although almost certainly composed using in game play footage is still a highly structured and orchestrated promotional and marketing movie composed mostly of story boarded set piece battle or action sequences.

All company's do this pre release, and very few people consider them to be true or absolute testaments to the true quality or nature of the actual game.

It is not really a very good general or authentic impression of what actually playing the game from the players perspective will be like.

And at the same time unfortunately the majority of what was featured has already been seen previously I.E. combat, mounts and ships, just less extensively.

Yes we did see some new things, but a lot of the things that many people wanted to see we saw only very briefly and in some cases for only a few seconds or not at all.

Does that mean these things are not implemented or that they are but the developers are not ready to show them, or they do not want to show them, who knows.

All I can say is unfortunately in my opinion this video did not comprehensively demonstrate all of Darkfalls proposed features using game play footage adequately.

2 Beta sign ups have come and gone before, and the community believed just as strongly that they were definitely going to happen soon as they do now.

And numerous tentative or even official schedules no matter how vague or ambiguous or indefinite they were have come and gone over the years and the community believed just as strongly that they were definitely going to happen as they do now.

Years ago the developers announced they had found a publisher and the community was definitely sure it indicated beta and launch were definitely coming soon just like they do now.

Like I've always said I would like to be wrong about my skepticism but considering this past history I will never give the developers the benefit of the doubt again until they finally prove their claims, this video has certainly gone a long way in doing so, but it by no means has conclusively finally proven beyond reasonable doubt everything they have been promising or claimed over the years.

Anyone who has a general appreciation of the history of the MMO industry will accept this, or has objectively compared what has been demonstrated in the latest video with the FAQ on their official website let alone their numerous Q&A's over the years.

Like any other MMO, the true test will be public beta.

I just have one thing to say to teedle really

Aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahh!
That sums it up nicely!

I like the video, i dont think Darkfall will be the next WoW but still its a damn nice change of pace!

Kalia:
Teedle? Where are ya, buddy? ;)

Glad to see that they indeed have had their act together. Cool beans and lookin' good. :)

Uh, when was this video made? Why does it look like something that is about to come out....if it was 2001.

It is pretty crappy looking, the animations are terrible. I compared videos of this, to videos of Lineage 2(a 4 year old game itself) and DF does not even compare.

Looks VERY dated.

-Hemi-:

Uh, when was this video made? Why does it look like something that is about to come out....if it was 2001.

It is pretty crappy looking, the animations are terrible. I compared videos of this, to videos of Lineage 2(a 4 year old game itself) and DF does not even compare.

Looks VERY dated.

Workable graphics is fine be me if it means total player freedom and the slew of other features Darkfall is promising. If you're after awesome graphics try AoC......lol

Chocolate Source:

-Hemi-:

Uh, when was this video made? Why does it look like something that is about to come out....if it was 2001.

It is pretty crappy looking, the animations are terrible. I compared videos of this, to videos of Lineage 2(a 4 year old game itself) and DF does not even compare.

Looks VERY dated.

Workable graphics is fine be me if it means total player freedom and the slew of other features Darkfall is promising. If you're after awesome graphics try AoC......lol

ouch :P

I just have one thing to say to teedle really

Aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahh!

i know. it is really funny though aint it?

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I kind of agree with the OP actually. I fully support what Darkfall are trying to do but I'm afraid the game does look absolutely awful. Graphics and animations DO matter......well at least they do for me. I have a PC that is capable of running top quality games so I dont want to be playing something that looks like it is 10 years old.......and yes Darkfall does look that bad.

However I think if Darkfall does release it may start a trend of new online rpgs. It will give other better games companies with more talent something to inspire them. I dont think Darkfall will be a good game......in fact I think it will be a total mess.......but at least it could be the first in a line of new games. Hopefully we will be seeing the beginning of the slow demise of boring themepark games. Fingers crossed.

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i just finished watching the full streaming vid and the game looks terrible.

The gameplay looks just plain bad. It looks like some kind of unorganized free-for-all world war 2 online only in a fantasy setting.

The graphics look on par with games from 2002. Literally.

The animations are beyond bad which just contribute even more to the bad gameplay.

After watching this whole thing I sat there wondering what exactly it was I just saw.. Because I sure as hell wasn't looking at the game that was promised all these years.

This game if it does release is going to fail miserably. It looks like a poor attempt at creating a MMORPG by a bunch of amateurs.

When I said "lookin' good", I meant that a video was out, that the naysayers couldn't say there never would be one. But even that said, graphics aren't all that matters to me. I have a high end machine but find that too much noise is made about cutting edge graphics that will render 90% of the gaming community unable to play. LOL! So using the "crappy graphics" argument isn't going to work for me.

The animations could use some work, I'll admit. ;)

To further prove my "you are a joke" point:

teedle:

PerfectInsanity:

No, you've been saying the game didn't exist.

I don't recall ever saying the game didn't exist.

teedle:
I thought Darkfall Online already qualified for nonexistence?

And those were defintely not just the voices in my head.

the game isnt out yet guyz so lets not celerbrate just yet however its the first time i seen yet of progress. I dont understand why everyone gets hung up on the graphics? I beleive this game is for the orginal uoers out there and for the true uoers out there i beleive well all agree that an orinal uo with updated graphics like wow,eq,and etc but arent the best grahics would be jus awesome. Ive been wiating for the day someone would finaly get way from thefuckin stupit ass lvling games and start makin skills. i could care less about the graphics i jus hope it runs good. there been many of large coperations, real ones like sony, who put out vanguard and i couldnt even log in and i tryed on 4 different computers plus all the other problem they have.

So lets jus hope it runs good and screw the rest.
MURDERING INOCENTS IS BACK AND THATS ALL I CARE ABOUT !!!

teedle:
I thought Darkfall Online already qualified for nonexistence?

And those were defintely not just the voices in my head.

Don't try and twist around obvious sarcasm to fit your own needs. The only "joke" here is that pathetic excuse for a video they released after 7 years of work.. along with yourself for actually thinking it's something substantial and not having the brainpower to look at it for what it really is --- an outdated combat simulator.

brandOo:
the game isnt out yet guyz so lets not celerbrate just yet however its the first time i seen yet of progress.

What progress? 95% of the video is the same stuff they've been showing for years already. It's just longer and more drawn out and more boring...

Almost the entire 17 minutes is just a bunch of poorly animated models running around back dropped against a visually dated world.

I guess you got your holy grail of MMORPG's. Shadowbane version 2.0 outdated graphics and all included. LOL

Now just wait for all the bugs to kick in when people actually try to play it.

The video was painful to watch. It reminded me of a really ugly Dark Messiah of Might and Magic with worse character animations and horrid sound effects.

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-Hemi-:

Uh, when was this video made? Why does it look like something that is about to come out....if it was 2001.

It is pretty crappy looking, the animations are terrible. I compared videos of this, to videos of Lineage 2(a 4 year old game itself) and DF does not even compare.

Looks VERY dated.

Workable graphics is fine be me if it means total player freedom and the slew of other features Darkfall is promising. If you're after awesome graphics try AoC......lol

Uh...you must not have played that P.O.S. either. Can you say DX9? AoC was SUPPOSED to have awesome graphics...there are those that are still waiting, I am not one of them.

Regardless you are in the minority. the graphics must be supperb to gain the needed player base that is, for the most part, very graphic oriented.

I agree with Kalia, in that a game with steep system requirements will indeed limit the community that is able to run it smoothly. But that is an easy fix, make the game scale well to a low end setting. Plenty of games do this, and do it well. the previously mentioned Lineage 2 does this extrememly well.

The video displays graphics and animations that are of a quality that will almost guaranteee its failure. I too hold gameplay above all else, but visual quality is a close 2nd or 3rd. Otherwise what is the point of having a graphics card that, all by itself, will make an XBox 360 run for momma.

teedle:
Don't try and twist around obvious sarcasm to fit your own needs.

I wasn't. Those were your words, plain and simple. Now shut up and get me a cupcake, bitch.

I see repeated comments about the graphics. I personally think the graphics aren't bad in an enviroment sense. I actually like some of the scenery in those videos. The particle effects and animations leave much to be desired, but that is probably going to improve a bit more before release. And I really still don't care that much about graphics compared to gameplay. And gameplay is what they've been prioritizing over the years. They had to bring in some models so they could work with things, so they are probably fine tuning that now after working on the MOUNDS of gameplay features. Of course it took 7 years to have a world that large, and have that many features.

Most of you have said it's a scripted video. It's not. They stated they were using freecams to record with FRAPS. Meaning they played the game normally while another camera within the engine was recording the footage. Now that probably wasn't the best idea to have that 100% in the video. I would've liked to see more UI features. But also the UI is extremely minimal. No names, no aura around the selected character, no targeting. I actually like that idea.

Also, this company is so little compared to Mythic or Blizzard, so people really should stop comaring them. Adventurine probably doesn't have a publisher because they've been avoiding it. Why? You all know what happens when a publisher gets it's hands on a game. Of course, there's better graphics and it's done much quicker, but the gameplay and content suffers greatly.

This game will come out, and it will suceed in their eyes. It won't kill any MMO out there because the hardcore audience is so little. I see this game succeeding much how Eve-Online succeeds. A small audience base with minimal servers, but with a lot of PvP based action and diplomacy. This game takes it a bit further than Eve ever did though.

As far as graphics go, they definitely don't have to be top of the line for me. However, smooth animations are a bit more important, makes for a feeling of smooth gameplay.