mrcheese:
Well if you want into the guild, PM Trijian (she's on all the damn time) or Shreddles (me).

If you're PMing Trijian, just let her know you know me and that should guarantee you entry. I dinged 60 last night, so i'm happy. Now just a grind to 70 and I can join the rest of the guild raiding Kara and Grulls.

Oh and yes, alliance on our server are horribly outnumbered, this can be a plus however, as you get into BGs within 5 minutes max. Average time to get into one is about 15 seconds.

How's the BG Win/loose ratio?

Wolfkin14:

mrcheese:
Well if you want into the guild, PM Trijian (she's on all the damn time) or Shreddles (me).

If you're PMing Trijian, just let her know you know me and that should guarantee you entry. I dinged 60 last night, so i'm happy. Now just a grind to 70 and I can join the rest of the guild raiding Kara and Grulls.

Oh and yes, alliance on our server are horribly outnumbered, this can be a plus however, as you get into BGs within 5 minutes max. Average time to get into one is about 15 seconds.

How's the BG Win/loose ratio?

id like to know as well, because most servers ive played on, allys ratio is usually 80% loss

its almost 50/50 on my server, tanaris. But then again, every server has its moments of pure suck. Yesterday i won the only 3 av matches i played, and day before that i won 5/7 AB.

NaotaFLCL:

Wolfkin14:

mrcheese:
Well if you want into the guild, PM Trijian (she's on all the damn time) or Shreddles (me).

If you're PMing Trijian, just let her know you know me and that should guarantee you entry. I dinged 60 last night, so i'm happy. Now just a grind to 70 and I can join the rest of the guild raiding Kara and Grulls.

Oh and yes, alliance on our server are horribly outnumbered, this can be a plus however, as you get into BGs within 5 minutes max. Average time to get into one is about 15 seconds.

How's the BG Win/loose ratio?

id like to know as well, because most servers ive played on, allys ratio is usually 80% loss

Exact opposite on Mannoroth, we loose a lot- Horde side.

Actually our alliance win ratio is pretty good. Mostly because of all the orgs going on. Horde don't do them as much as they have the sheer numbers, but stand in any capital for more than 30 seconds and you'll see at least 5 "LFM org AV"

We tend to rape arathi and eots, but AV is our weakest area. Still for such a horrible population split, alliance are holding their own.

heh, my other issue was on half the servers ive been on, alliance have been boycotting WSG and AB. so my wait times were 5-7 hours at a time. I dunno, i may roll with you. ill see what happens later on.

wow, are u talking about bg's under lvl 70? ive never waited for more then 3min for any bg ever. But i only started doing bg's at lvl 70=p
o and i just had "cloak of darkness" crafted , and earned my vindicators plate belt =[]

i now self buff to 2214 attack power and 28.30% crit chance ! rawr
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Buju

Imp. Mortal Strike and Endless Rage make me cry.

Ugh, Man I'd defintly take a strong look at your spec, it's not that great. Improved Rend, Improved Thunder Clap, Improved Charge aren't very good pvp talents. And, you don't have second win, second win= win in pvp.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xbAioM0zZVVzVMxkV is my current build, try it out

And, Endless rage is usually only good in 2v2 or 3v3 pvp when you get focused fire a lot

i mainly have the thunderclap cuz i been running low lvl instances a few times a day for guildies, and it allows me to train groups and drop them aoe style, but i agree with your adjustments as far as pvp, i have only recently changed my spec to what it is sense my 5vs5 and 3vs3 disbanded, now i mainly solo and do low lvl guild runs.I might switch it up once s4 starts, assuming i can drag some friends back into arena,Cuz realy theres not much left as far as BG rewards that i need, so any pvp i do would just be casual.

Edit: Upon futher inspection of that spec u linked, it seems that i would no longer be a ms warrior, and more of a furry, sept id be using a 2 hander still. If i mimic that spec i may as well drop 2 hand specilixation and go 2 swords (a spec i did before my ms spec)

Nothing.. I am just playing UT3 and SC.. waiting for SC2

IMO, aside from sword/mace spec (mace for 2's, sword for 5s), there's really only two ways to spec a Warrior for PvP/arenas:

build 1: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbogbdbZVxzm0xRZc
build 2: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbogbzbZVxzmMxRc

For PvE you'd be better off going Fury.

i have a few warrior friends that are in s3, and others in raid gear, they have both been threw this with me lol, having me go furry specs and ms/furry hybrids. In the end i preffer the spec im in currently for what im doing.

i might try that 1st spec u listed chi, when i am done with my current trend of tasks.I like it cuz u incorperated hamy, i am very use to using that skill often in bg.s sense i seem to go head to head with rouges and huntards. when that added root effect lands its game over for them.
but realy as it is right now, i do pretty good,even with my current spec being gimped for helping guildies, only time i have real issues is when im up against full s2 or s3 gear, cuz there resilliance is alot higher, and my crits basicly amount to mesquito bites against a s3 war or druid. Just last night a 70 priest and 70 huntard combo attacked westfall while i was assiting someone. I had a 69 rogue assist me, they dropped us 2 times, but we got them 9 times before they left the area. ^^ when i get a good chance to respec ill tell u how it works out using http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbogbdbZVxzm0xRZc , seems worth a shot.But thats only if i get back into arena,what i have now works fine for the dailys i do, rest of my time is minning/low lvl guild runs.

Just one thing, if you do decide to with two one handers, I suggest getting more pve gear, since, pvp gear is decent for pve, but you'll need a lot more hit. Oh yeah, don't spec into improved rend, not worth the talent points :P

http://www.wowwiki.com/Warrior_builds

That lists most of the specs for most things. Fury DPS, Arms pvp, Arms PvE, and Prot

i know i know, trust me i have heard all the gripes about my spec, and the alternatives =p i have played this character for alil over 100 days /played . i dont raid, or do heroics, so my hit rateing is fine, i cant remember the last time i died soloing which is 98% of my pve, so all the suggestions are minor tweaks imo, and im not trying to be king og the world, but i have my drake and a pile of gold i could swim in (neked?), so im basicly just coasting down hill untill lichking comes out.

edit: erased 1/2 the sarcasim, got alil outa hand ^^

u know what, now that im feeling alil more open minded, im gonna try a slight variation of the spec u 1st listed wolfkin, largest variation will be sword spec instead of axe spec. ill update after i set the points and try it out.

Yea, the only way I know how to spec a Warrior is PvE Prot or MS for arenas.

ok,......id like to start by asking...wolfkin, is it ok if i call you "Master Wolfkin"?
ok, now id like to officialy remove the shoe from my mouth. Now then, i have respecd, only slightly different from the spec u said u were using, i am now at 31/30/o, i alterd it only slightly, for 2 hand sword, and let me just say
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G !!! U are the man wolf, i just cleared zf for a guildy, and the sweeping strikes +cleave pretty much cleared the entire thing in record time. Glad u guys suggested it, amongst my resistance to change ^^ o and crit chance jumped up to 32.30% almost a 5 point increase.

Yeah, 31/30 is the more pve/pvp spec for arms, 33/28 is probably more of a pvp build, since second win= pwnage for pvp. Yeah, and Cruelty does that for ya

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdGbogbzbZE0zm0gRc is probably the pure pvp cookie cutter build that's pretty good right now

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0xdIboghzioE0zm0x is the other pvp build if you like endless rage

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVMcdAbot0dZVx0VMgoc is the PvE Arms build right, use slam in between mortal strike

If you have any other questions about any other specs, just ask

Imp. Slam is a nono for PvP, take Imp. Execute instead. Also, I'm more of a fan of Imp. Demo Shout but to each his own, as long as it's not Unbridled Wrath.

thats actualy what i did chi lol, went imp demo shout, but i find myself using it less with this new spec, so i might change those points around
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Tanaris&n=Buju

Chi:
Imp. Slam is a nono for PvP, take Imp. Execute instead. Also, I'm more of a fan of Imp. Demo Shout but to each his own, as long as it's not Unbridled Wrath.

Eh, I run BG's with my Buddy Druid, and he usually roots and I rush in. So a lot of the time the guy is standing still, so in between MS cool downs I throw in a slam or two. A lot of warriors on the WoW forums like it as well. It also allows me to farm pretty well in a PvP spec. Probably if I was super awesome serious with arena's I'd take Imp Execute instead, but, I'm not :P

im basicly in the same situation, minus the druid combo, so i have to rely on hamy.I have only recently started testing out the slam in certain combos.

o and on a non WOW topic, i was trying to get into the Rohan closed beta phase #2, it shows on the sitehttp://www.playrohan.com/?page=home, that they are obviously trying to get more people to register, yet i cant get past the 1st page of sign up, it just reloads the page with all my info intact, with no error messages. Seems most people who are in phase 2 are the ones from phase 1. If anyone who likes grinders such as this has tried it, what do u think of it so far? it seems the release or atleast open beta will be around in a few weeks, i personaly cant wait to try it.