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1)   30 Dec 2007 20:04
teedle
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Here is the problem with this game...

This game is outdated plain and simple. It has nothing going for it anymore apart from it trying to include everything in 1 single game. They have not even proven that they even have that yet so no one believes them. And even if they did not have everything (which would be ok) they still have not proven that even "1" of their features works as intended.

There are games coming out next year that have all of their features that are core to Darkfall in them and they have proven their concepts actually work. What has Aventurine done? nothing but talk, whilst their "proof" is nothing more then very outdated videos and screen shots.

Their graphics will be a huge factor in how well they do like it or not. Especially if Warhammer and Age of Conan do well , which of course they will. Does anyone honestly think people are going to give a damn that Darkfall dumbed down its graphics engine so that it could have better combat???? When those other 2 games have 100 x better graphics and are proven to work with the same sort of combat system?

All they really need to do to is show they have a combat system that works with servers that can support the constant massive battles that will (supposadely) happen in this game. And they have NEVER done that. With all the failed mmo's and now this game stinking of another dark and light you would think these guys have enough common sense to prove they are not talking shit but again for some reason - they never do.

No one is making any of this stuff up, all of the problems these guys have with non fanboys being a lot more pessimistic is SELF INFLICTED, and it would be very easy for them to sort this problem out but as I and many others have said THEY NEVER DO. So obviously no one (with commen sense that is) has any faith in them.

2)   30 Dec 2007 23:43
yamisniper
Posts: 269
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SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM STFU already

3)   31 Dec 2007 05:35
guyarmo
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Agreed the graphics are way outdated. But what other game coming out has all the core features of Darkfall? Darkfall is the only game I know of emphasizing the free-to-do-what-you-want type of gameplay. That's what appeals to me.

4)   31 Dec 2007 11:44
teedle
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"SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM STFU already"

This is a classic example of the Darkfall fanatic. They are like brainwashed cult followers. They only understand one thing "Darkfall is my God" there can be no other Gods other than Darkfall.

Seriously , pull your brain out of the trash bin for half a second and start using it for more than worshipping a 7 year old project who's only claim to fame are a few terrible looking Alpha videos and some outdated screenshots.

5)   31 Dec 2007 12:08
yamisniper
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worship ? lol your the one worshiping it to die ? if darkfall comes out i hope it will be good but i do have other mmos as back ups so

Cry more noob

fallen earth
jumpgate evo
stargate worlds maybe
TCOS
swg pre cu emulator : ) taking abit longer but its a hard game to emulate << i follow this more than i do df
i watch plenty of mmos not just darkfall

My question is could you say that to my face?
if not stfu

SO your wrong again

6)   31 Dec 2007 15:50
SomeDamnIdiot
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Your an idiot.. why even post in these forums if only "darkfall fanatics" are around. its like you and 2 others, sure adventurine has not given us a whole lot and quite frankly im not happy about it either.

BUT you have to understand that most people are not just watching darkfall, ive been watching this W.A.R and AoC closely and im probably going to play one of the other 2 until i see that darkfall is really coming out.

so stfu and go away

7)   31 Dec 2007 16:48
brucian
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SomeDamnIdiot:
Your an idiot.. why even post in these forums if only "darkfall fanatics" are around.

As I've said before, people who go to lengths to trash a game - that already has few people supporting it these days (Judging by forum traffic.) - are either emotionally disadvantaged or are hired by other companies to subdue a "threat," and I think we all know what the more likely option is.

8)   1 Jan 2008 09:40
yamisniper
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few people theres alot more than you think theres alot that just dont visit the forums so your options are bias 2 im only defending it cause there no point it repeating what timble says with out nay proof whats e ever its merly unfair to judge something until there proof of anything

its just like me calling you gay but are you id ont know but your gay any ways same diffrence.

im j/k i dont think your gay just making a statemeant

9)   2 Jan 2008 11:16
teedle
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Darkfall doesn't even have 1 single video that shows PvE combat with a monster after 4-7 years.

^ sad fact.

10)   3 Jan 2008 14:07
brucian
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yamisniper:
few people theres alot more than you think theres alot that just dont visit the forums so your options are bias 2 im only defending it cause there no point it repeating what timble says with out nay proof whats e ever its merly unfair to judge something until there proof of anything

its just like me calling you gay but are you id ont know but your gay any ways same diffrence.

im j/k i dont think your gay just making a statemeant

Was that at me?
If so let me reword a bit: Few people in comparison to other games. I know there is a following, but theres little talk/fan promotion going on in comparison to other, more promoted games.

I hope that clears it up for you.

11)   4 Jan 2008 14:20
yamisniper
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hey at least there not over hyping it like other mmo projects like AOc and its clone(with a twist onthe combat which isnt very good in the first place) thats what aPR departmeant is for
DF doesnt have 1 plus they think there game will speak for it self so yes it will probly start off slow like eve

12)   10 Jan 2008 14:55
jaggid
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The OP posted the same exact post on the IGN boards as well. He is either a fanboi of AOC or is associated with the dev team over there.

13)   10 Jan 2008 14:57
jaggid
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You can't be that clueless. The game is a PvP game, the whole focus is PvP! That is why a PvE game makes videos of PvE and you don't see PvP videos form PvE based games.

Think before you speak and cross domain post drivel that is baseless.

14)   11 Jan 2008 01:05
DevilDawgCAP
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I hate the followers of this game, therefore I now hate the game, it sucks anyway get over it. This game is D-E-A-D DEAD. Got that dead.

15)   11 Jan 2008 17:39
yamisniper
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Devil lol so aventurine is paying 40 plus devs plus testers for a dead game godo job you made your self look like an idiot

16)   11 Jan 2008 19:10
jaggid
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DevilDawgCAP:
I hate the followers of this game, therefore I now hate the game, it sucks anyway get over it. This game is D-E-A-D DEAD. Got that dead.

You my friend are a smart one. As Yamisniper has said, they are paying a dev team to develope a dead game?

You must be an AOC or WAR fan..maybe a PvE luva?

17)   11 Jan 2008 23:02
yamisniper
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jaggid you got to relize darkfall is based around pvp and pve it snot just for pvp just laot of the features tends to promote pvp but yea pve and pvp should be prettty good

18)   12 Jan 2008 00:04
DevilDawgCAP
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You all just proved my point of why I hate the followers.Your comments to my post. I can list many reasons why this game is dead so just, just don't talk. And I don't care if they are paying a dev team to develop this game and testers to test it, I can pay people to create and test anything, does it mean it's any good. NO. Especially after 4 years and nothing good to show for it except for talk about how there game is so much better than everybody else's.

19)   12 Jan 2008 03:09
yamisniper
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dude you insulted us and i didnt reply in a bad manner in the first place sorry for alling you retard then but its just as bad when your calling the devs liars how the hell do you think that makes them feel even an outside source that thought the game was vapor get to visit them and comfirmed there not lieing but people like teedle insit they are then you come along and call the game vapor its get annoying when theres 40 plus devs being payed to amke the game but its vapor it doesnt make sence

20)   12 Jan 2008 04:51
MorkdaOrc
WarCry Choice
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I will back the Devoplers on this one and just let the community know that this game is not Dead. It is very much alive and kicking.

Morkdaorc
Warcry Reporter

21)   12 Jan 2008 05:34
DevilDawgCAP
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Okay, so me saying I hate the followers of this game because they insult people who say bad, but very true things about Darkfall is me insulting you? Well, I have all the right in the world to insult you. Maybe your first insults were not directed at me, but they were very insulting and I know how you think. You love this game, and there is nothing wrong with that. However when somebody makes a comment about it you don't like you don't have to get so upset about it. Just state your facts on why you think they are wrong,IF they are wrong.

I was really thinking of getting this game if and when it came out, but I'm not sure if I want to play with a bunch of people like "yamisniper" and "jaggid" I would not mind playing with someone like "MorkdaOrc" because he did not get all insulted and angry about what I said. Even though what I said was basically just a test to see how you would react. Congratulations you acted just the way I thought you would.

And please don't call me a retard. That is not a nice thing to say especially about someone you do not know a thing about. Plus you saying I made myself look like an idiot and lol at me is not a bad manner? Hmm?

22)   12 Jan 2008 07:59
yamisniper
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whats true calling it vaporware isnt true making blatent lies and keep posting one after another saying bullshit that you cant prove just because they missed a few dates doesnt mean shit so if you have issues why dont you go look at teedles track record its pretty damn obvious he is a liar and is just trying to start shit

Idont knwo why people cant get it throw there thick heads that they have stated they want an almost complete game before they do a beta. it looks like there sticking to there guns to me
Tell me why you getpissed off if the devs say sid feature will be in but it doesnt make it because they rush it and then over pr the game you get pissed off. But when we actully get a group of devs that arent rushing you start calling it vaporware and shit WTF is wrong with that YOU TELL ME

23)   12 Jan 2008 08:42
DevilDawgCAP
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What, now you start making assumptions about what I'm thinking. What is this! And making a game for 4-7 years is not just making sure they have a good game its going extremely slow, probably because they don't have anything good yet. This game is not even listed on large game retailers. So thats what tells me that it could take who knows how long to complete.

I don't know why you can't get it through your thick head that I'm not mad at the company or devs or calling them liars. I'm mad at people like you. However the devs should have more stuff for the public since the game has been in production for so long. I'm not asking them to rush the game either, I just want more solid info on how its going.

I will admit, although I thought you might have understood me in my last post, that me saying the game was dead was a lie, because it is not. I know that, I wanted to see how you would react. And by the way they do have a clan BETA going on, another reason I know the game is making some progress.

24)   13 Jan 2008 13:01
A1R5N1P3R
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I just found about Darkfall today. There are a number of developers out there aiming at a completely free environment, and this idea appeals to me. The idea that Age of Conan will be sharing it's servers with xb360 and PC players tells me a few things. That the game won't be all that it can be, and that there will be alot of children, which frankly - most AoC fans had hoped wouldn't be the case. So even with the great graphics of AoC I'll be passing cause I hate kids and I'm not a babysitter. Warhammer just looks like trash and the world isn't free-roaming like WoW is. I'm not pleased with WoW either, i quit nearly 10 months ago.

Greece isn't Silicon Valley, and if the developers want investors, I suggest at least a trip to Germany. The servers will need to be centrally located, if a mostly European playerbase is your goal. I don't mind playing a game with last gen graphix if it delivers the features I want. I hope this anti-Darkfall posting bears no truth, because it's clear alot of ppl like it.

25)   13 Jan 2008 17:52
DevilDawgCAP
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Some of the Anti Darkfall reporting is not true, and some is the truth. And to be honest I would really like to have gotten this game to, but I don't like the followers of it, so to me playing with jerks is worse than kids. Alls I have been saying is this game needs some more solid info about it, if it wants people who like it to stick with it before AOC and WAR come out, because both of those games do seem very good.

26)   13 Jan 2008 22:11
yamisniper
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AOC is crap war will probly be better but i dont look at info on that game so Devil yes some of us are ass wholes im not ima ctully a really nice person XD but would you just give them more time it isnt like there taking any money from you alot of it is for shits and grins tho and some of the asswholes have spent to much wwatching this game XD

and if there is clan beta going on Oo they are under a heavy NDA

27)   14 Jan 2008 17:11
DevilDawgCAP
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I just have to say one thing about what "A1R5N1P3R" said, about AOC sharing severs with the 360. It will still be able to reach its full potential, because MMOs have not yet passed what a 360 can do. Maybe if we were talking about an FPS or RTS, but MMOs still have a ways to go. I agree with you on the little kid thing though.

Hopefully this site has gotten into the clan beta, so they can give us some info on Darkfall.

28)   18 Jan 2008 05:00
Steviecheese
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Wow..Teedle really creeps me out..I mean, its just a game..

29)   18 Jan 2008 06:34
DevilDawgCAP
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Steviecheese:
Wow..Teedle really creeps me out..I mean, its just a game..

I will agree with you that it is just a game, however some people especially big time WOW fans, do not want to here anything said against their game. I have heard a WOW fan say that its graphics are better than that of many games that are coming out now. Some people will say anything to make them selves think their favorite game is the best in the world.

P.S. Does anybody on this site know what a DevilDog is" My name isn't devil because of some weird reason, its a term for marines.

30)   18 Jan 2008 22:02
jaggid
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yamisniper:
jaggid you got to relize darkfall is based around pvp and pve it snot just for pvp just laot of the features tends to promote pvp but yea pve and pvp should be prettty good

Not my point, all MMO's have PvE, totally unavoidable. I was just implying he is a punk that loves PvE and is to wussy to be a PvP luva.

31)   18 Jan 2008 22:04
jaggid
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I won't call you by your full name because that would disgrace the Marine's.

Anyway, you are the type of person disliked in the gaming community, you are known as a troll, but I am pretty sure are sitting there smiling at that statement. ;)

32)   19 Jan 2008 00:49
Steviecheese
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DevilDawgCAP:

Steviecheese:
Wow..Teedle really creeps me out..I mean, its just a game..

I will agree with you that it is just a game, however some people especially big time WOW fans, do not want to here anything said against their game. I have heard a WOW fan say that its graphics are better than that of many games that are coming out now. Some people will say anything to make them selves think their favorite game is the best in the world.

P.S. Does anybody on this site know what a DevilDog is" My name isn't devil because of some weird reason, its a term for marines.

Still im a Gamer all the way, but just cause a game doesnt come out fast enough doesnt mean you start insulting it..Really creepy. But I do agree with you.

33)   20 Jan 2008 17:53
DevilDawgCAP
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jaggid:
I won't call you by your full name because that would disgrace the Marine's.

Anyway, you are the type of person disliked in the gaming community, you are known as a troll, but I am pretty sure are sitting there smiling at that statement. ;)

I actually do laugh at that statement because I have never actually heard that term before, "troll". Why am I disliked by the "gaming" community? By that you mean some of the people that like this game right? I hope you don't mean the whole gaming community, because I am anything but hated. A disgrace to the Marines eh? Hmm, again knowing nothing about me.

I am not insulting the game for the last time. I am just a bit perturbed that it has been in production for so long and they don't have much information to give to the community.

34)   20 Jan 2008 19:34
yamisniper
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there a shit load of info but you have to beleive them if ytou dont then there is no info xD
yous houdl be grateful there not rushing it and giving us a shit game

35)   20 Jan 2008 23:28
DevilDawgCAP
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Okay,maybe I used the wrong word when I said info. I meant solid facts about what they have. I have read their info, I'm not saying it is lies or I don't believe it, but there is no evidence supporting what they have accomplished.

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