Did I read this? No. Do I care? No. Are you a retard? YES, YES, YES!

i can beleive people are even still in this fourm chatting about the same hit month after month. The game is being mde by a bunch of retards and the game is not coming out. Period. Sop fighting. And for you people who are like " your just saying it cuz you want it dead and to fail" honestly i think i want this game to come out more then the devs, creators, and all of uz. Its the same shit every 2 weeks and its unreal how anyone STYLL can keep making up excusses for this games and the devs. Its th same excusses for 8 fucking years. give it a rest.

I cant believe your still around i thought someon killed you meh LOL same shit the Q/A have been prett damn good i dont remember ever recieving any of that info so wTf are you talking about
what excusses? no one makes them up

DevilDawgCAP:
Okay,maybe I used the wrong word when I said info. I meant solid facts about what they have. I have read their info, I'm not saying it is lies or I don't believe it, but there is no evidence supporting what they have accomplished.

they have publishers that want it but they goign ot chose the best method so ig uess that could be proof if the publishers would says oemthing stupid NDA

DevilDawgCAP:
Okay, so me saying I hate the followers of this game because they insult people who say bad, but very true things about Darkfall is me insulting you? Well, I have all the right in the world to insult you. Maybe your first insults were not directed at me, but they were very insulting and I know how you think. You love this game, and there is nothing wrong with that. However when somebody makes a comment about it you don't like you don't have to get so upset about it. Just state your facts on why you think they are wrong,IF they are wrong.

I was really thinking of getting this game if and when it came out, but I'm not sure if I want to play with a bunch of people like "yamisniper" and "jaggid" I would not mind playing with someone like "MorkdaOrc" because he did not get all insulted and angry about what I said. Even though what I said was basically just a test to see how you would react. Congratulations you acted just the way I thought you would.

And please don't call me a retard. That is not a nice thing to say especially about someone you do not know a thing about. Plus you saying I made myself look like an idiot and lol at me is not a bad manner? Hmm?

I was neither mad or insulted, I am just tired of hearing people state things as fact when tehy have no clue what they are talking about. Why would you think I was mad or insulted, because I called you a PvE luva? Get over it.

Hai im from EA.
Darkfall is going to suck
and anyone who disagrees is a fanboi fgt
Thank you. And please think of EA when satisfying all your gaming needs

teedle:
Here is the problem with this game...

This game is outdated plain and simple. It has nothing going for it anymore apart from it trying to include everything in 1 single game. They have not even proven that they even have that yet so no one believes them. And even if they did not have everything (which would be ok) they still have not proven that even "1" of their features works as intended.

There are games coming out next year that have all of their features that are core to Darkfall in them and they have proven their concepts actually work. What has Aventurine done? nothing but talk, whilst their "proof" is nothing more then very outdated videos and screen shots.

Their graphics will be a huge factor in how well they do like it or not. Especially if Warhammer and Age of Conan do well , which of course they will. Does anyone honestly think people are going to give a damn that Darkfall dumbed down its graphics engine so that it could have better combat???? When those other 2 games have 100 x better graphics and are proven to work with the same sort of combat system?

All they really need to do to is show they have a combat system that works with servers that can support the constant massive battles that will (supposadely) happen in this game. And they have NEVER done that. With all the failed mmo's and now this game stinking of another dark and light you would think these guys have enough common sense to prove they are not talking shit but again for some reason - they never do.

No one is making any of this stuff up, all of the problems these guys have with non fanboys being a lot more pessimistic is SELF INFLICTED, and it would be very easy for them to sort this problem out but as I and many others have said THEY NEVER DO. So obviously no one (with commen sense that is) has any faith in them.

First of all graphics are not as important for majority of players.
For example Vanguard has much better graphic than Wow. Hell L2 got better graphic than WoW but WoW beat hell out of this games because overall quality.
BTW there are people who still play UO and original EQ so...
Second. None of incoming games have same features as DFO.
"Free will" with full loot is not same as item driven game with optional pvp.
Player build towns are not same as RvR keep.
Emotional involvement is such game is on all other level than RvR "no lose, win guaranty" games.
Dont even try to compare features of AoC and War to DFO.

As for viperware. I can't say it is not but PvP players have no other game on horizon so we follow DFO and hope for the best.

LOL i cant beleive you get excited because they add a Q&A....LOL OMFG now the game is realli coming out soon we got Q&A. Its the same excusses time after time from the devs and the blind people. I left this fourm like 6 months ago when the game was just about to come out and 6 months later there saying the same exact shit and the game is coming out real soon.....right?lol is this a joke.and th crazyest thing is u people realli keep defending the devs and the game like its your game. Its ok to admitt your wrong or the game its not the end of the world....im out once again and ill check back in another 6 months to get another laugh at the same shit on the fourms and same shit devs say

yes yes we all heard it before can you come up with something new

I wish ic ould file harrasemeant charges cause thats exactully what your doing

MorkdaOrc:
I will back the Devoplers on this one and just let the community know that this game is not Dead. It is very much alive and kicking.

It's been "alive and kicking" for SEVEN YEARS.

SEVEN YEARS.

Release the damn game already, or stop pretending.

World War 2 was shorter.
World War f***ing 2.

so? has there ever been a game with tis many features NO STFU

The fact that they have been working on this game for 7 years means that its better than any MMO ever seen. And you have to remember its COMPLETELY hand crafted artwork not some computer generated stuff (which I dont completely support). AND DO NOT FORGET THE COMBAT!!! who wants to click and wait for something to die then watch it fall down... oh level up! Now I can click on something more powerful and wait for it to die... In darkfall (if they do live up to there word) "I need to go pking for some gold"... *SLASH* *WHACK* *BAM* "DIE NOOB" "AHHHHHH!!! MY ARM YOU CHOPPED OFF MY ARM" "I shall leave you to suffer and then come back to take your gold" Isnt that a bit more exsiting?

NO ONE CARES IF YOU DONT THINK DF WILL COME OUT UNLIKE YOU WE CAN WAIT AND DO SOMETHING WITH OUR SELFS UNTIL THE BETA!

Have you all heard of Snipe Hunt online. It is a new game going into beta in the next couple of weeks, it is something to play while waiting for DF. It features 30 playable races, A no class skill system, a wounding system, open PK with looting, personal and guild housing. Multiple combat interfaces. A massive seamless world... and much much more.

The game has been in development for unknown number of years as the original concept was devised by the Tukhaumet Tribe of what is now modern Indonisia. They began devolping concept art on the walls of their cave dwellings and many generations later that development process is still being worked on. Prebeta started in the 19th Century when scientist constructed a crude mock up using existing teletext lines, by tapping out code they could work out issues with the combat and trade system. Well thats all for now... don't want to give too much away about the most kick ass mmo ever.

Lol, gotta hand it to you, that was pretty funny bloodyleach.

Personally, I'm not sure what drives people to get so angry over a game...this day and age people must lead insanely lame lives--there's no other explanation for it other than sheer purposelessness. Honestly people.

Well, I figured while I was at it I should include my opinion on these matters.

Firstly, it's funny how some people truly reflect the mentality of today's culture--faithlessness and a lack of trust characterizes the increasing majority. "This game's been in development forever with little proof that it will ever be completed..." That is the most common accusation.
As for me, I don't need the visual proof. I'm a concepts guy, and I tend to take people for their word. Judging by what I've read, the content suggests the dev team is extremely mature; they don't cave in to political pressures, they are confident in their product, but not arrogant, they have been extremely faithful to their concepts (from what it sounds like) from day one--I applaud their approach and honesty with the utmost sincerity.

Perhaps the game never does come out, that could happen. Oh well...life will go on...someone will make it someday. But what if it does? Have the naysayers been raving to everyone they know? Because if they have, how foolish would they look the day this game was released? No need to get so worked up, unless of course you get paid to do it--there's gotta be something illegal about that...

Lastly, if you think about it, this game SHOULD be taking as long as it has been if it's going to be done properly. I wouldn't expect anything less as far as the development length. "Well then why no real proof?" Well, I guess that definition is subject to the individual. I've seen 'good proof' myself. The few videos I've seen have been beautiful as far as I'm concerned. Graphics may not be jaw-dropping, but little does it matter if you have a game of such variety and freedom and gameplay quality--look at civilization.
As a writer and highly analytical person, i see the dev journals as nothing short of genius. Yes, talk may be cheap, but developing a game is not. And if someone's willing to fund this game, then you better believe they're working their butts off to get this game where they feel it needs to be.

It's sad to me how people will ALWAYS, inevitably determine to tear down the success and dreams that others have simply due to the fact that they themselves do not have the strength of character to do something for themselves. I'm sorry, but hating on the dev team and this game will get you nowhere in life...try just trusting them for a little bit, it won't hurt.

have a good one!

well written imanoutkast.

I guess some people just see trolling as their way to pass the time till the game is out

Yami, how old are you? You use "STFU" like its a cure for cancer. I want to read your posts to point out how f-ing retarded you are, but it just hurts my brain to decipher your "pwnzor-joo-n00b-l33t" bullsh-t.

This game is not happening, not in the format they promised. If it EVER sees the light of day, it will be stripped down like every other game that promised too much and couldn't deliver. Because this company is RUNNING OUT OF MONEY.

Quote me, write it down in your little book. But come end of June(which is when you "guaranteed" it will be released), I'll be here to tell you once again...you're an idiot.

Whats the whole point in trying to convince peope the game wont be comming out ?

There's a chance it wont which we all know, even Yami. But there is also a chance there is, which we would prefer because the concept of the game is just that damn good.

Also its a bit hard to take you serious when you're making claims about the companies financial situation when you really dont know anything about that.

Even if the companies goes down the drain there'd still be a chance the concept would be sold to a bigger company because it remains a good concept for any mmo and even if that wont work there's bound to be some mmo's that'll steal of darkfalls strongpoints to strengthen their own products.

All these speculations of the nay-sayers are just going to look really dumb when the game is out and they all play it, apart from teedle maybe when aoc fires him ;)

YEp i know to well there always a chane but there a greater chance the trolls are going to get a swift kick in the face later this year and i can bet on it : )

Nightfreak:
Whats the whole point in trying to convince peope the game wont be comming out ?

There's a chance it wont which we all know, even Yami. But there is also a chance there is, which we would prefer because the concept of the game is just that damn good.

Also its a bit hard to take you serious when you're making claims about the companies financial situation when you really dont know anything about that.

Even if the companies goes down the drain there'd still be a chance the concept would be sold to a bigger company because it remains a good concept for any mmo and even if that wont work there's bound to be some mmo's that'll steal of darkfalls strongpoints to strengthen their own products.

All these speculations of the nay-sayers are just going to look really dumb when the game is out and they all play it, apart from teedle maybe when aoc fires him ;)

WORD!!!!!!!!!!

Nightfreak:
Whats the whole point in trying to convince peope the game wont be comming out ?

There's a chance it wont which we all know, even Yami. But there is also a chance there is, which we would prefer because the concept of the game is just that damn good.

Also its a bit hard to take you serious when you're making claims about the companies financial situation when you really dont know anything about that.

Even if the companies goes down the drain there'd still be a chance the concept would be sold to a bigger company because it remains a good concept for any mmo and even if that wont work there's bound to be some mmo's that'll steal of darkfalls strongpoints to strengthen their own products.

All these speculations of the nay-sayers are just going to look really dumb when the game is out and they all play it, apart from teedle maybe when aoc fires him ;)

Whats the whole point of trying to convince people that the game WILL be coming out?

lol we arent trying ocnvince people if you trolls wouldnt post we wouldnt either simple as that.
btw the trolsl should look at thre own post to see how retarded there acting. I bet they would say any of it in front of the devs faces : ) or even mine

I will say it to the Devs faces or your's Yami... is that supposed to be a threat? Let me just say it is part of my job to criticize and insight people to defend their beliefs when their is lack of evidence. So call it Trolling or whatever you want, but if you want to sit down and have this conversation face to face (GOD knows it would be better than deciphering your incoherent posts). I am more than willing, however if you are insinuating this argument would come to fisticuffs, well then that shows your immaturity, but I am not afraid to say what I think in front of anyone.

not really saying i would fight any one is just i can explain better where im coming from. Personnly i have talked to other game studios that have seen darkfall. But i cant prove it its litterly impossible because even if i did screenshot it the trolls would say its faked like they doe verything which is bullshit.

But i bet im more right than im worng on this but hey belive what you want ans just go away already

-Hemi-:

Whats the whole point of trying to convince people that the game WILL be coming out?

Who says we are?
The developers say they are, and its very well possible they will at some point!
Is long development time a sign of it not coming out ? No
Do you know the insights of the company so do you have a reason not to believe them? No
Does missing a number of beta dates means it wont come out? No, all mmo's did
Do we like the concept of the game? Yes

I completly agree that they havent shown nearly enough to back their claims, but this still doesnt prove anything

Nightfreak:

-Hemi-:

Whats the whole point of trying to convince people that the game WILL be coming out?

Who says we are?
The developers say they are, and its very well possible they will at some point!
Is long development time a sign of it not coming out ? No
Do you know the insights of the company so do you have a reason not to believe them? No
Does missing a number of beta dates means it wont come out? No, all mmo's did
Do we like the concept of the game? Yes

I completly agree that they havent shown nearly enough to back their claims, but this still doesnt prove anything

exactully and thats what pisses me off abotu the trolls only reason i defend it really : )

yamisniper:

Nightfreak:

-Hemi-:

Whats the whole point of trying to convince people that the game WILL be coming out?

Who says we are?
The developers say they are, and its very well possible they will at some point!
Is long development time a sign of it not coming out ? No
Do you know the insights of the company so do you have a reason not to believe them? No
Does missing a number of beta dates means it wont come out? No, all mmo's did
Do we like the concept of the game? Yes

I completly agree that they havent shown nearly enough to back their claims, but this still doesnt prove anything

exactully and thats what pisses me off abotu the trolls only reason i defend it really : )

Yamisniper rules!

Allways the same crap with these Darkfall haters spreading their propaganda, go back to wow or AoC whatever you pricks play, we dont want you or need you here, dont like it get fucked.

Now the graphics will be outdated you say, read the dev's latelly asshole, FIRST they created the magnific system that darkfall runs on that had never been done before, them they fixed the major bugs( and when i say major bugs i mean it), now they are improving the graphics details, adding options and variety and improving gaming experience and gamer suport.
(the game is being tested by payed professional game testers)

EVER WONDER WHY THEY DONT RELEASE 200 SCREENSHOTS A WEEK, ITS BECAUSE THE FUCKING GAME ISNT DONE, THE GRAPHICS ARENT FINAL EITHER.

SO PICK YOUR SHIT UP AND WELL SEE U in DARKFALL, ill be the one brutally ganking you.

oh one more thing, FUCK MUFFINS

like he said stfu trolls : )

teedle:
Here is the problem with this game...

This game is outdated plain and simple. It has nothing going for it anymore apart from it trying to include everything in 1 single game. They have not even proven that they even have that yet so no one believes them. And even if they did not have everything (which would be ok) they still have not proven that even "1" of their features works as intended.

There are games coming out next year that have all of their features that are core to Darkfall in them and they have proven their concepts actually work. What has Aventurine done? nothing but talk, whilst their "proof" is nothing more then very outdated videos and screen shots.

Their graphics will be a huge factor in how well they do like it or not. Especially if Warhammer and Age of Conan do well , which of course they will. Does anyone honestly think people are going to give a damn that Darkfall dumbed down its graphics engine so that it could have better combat???? When those other 2 games have 100 x better graphics and are proven to work with the same sort of combat system?

All they really need to do to is show they have a combat system that works with servers that can support the constant massive battles that will (supposadely) happen in this game. And they have NEVER done that. With all the failed mmo's and now this game stinking of another dark and light you would think these guys have enough common sense to prove they are not talking shit but again for some reason - they never do.

No one is making any of this stuff up, all of the problems these guys have with non fanboys being a lot more pessimistic is SELF INFLICTED, and it would be very easy for them to sort this problem out but as I and many others have said THEY NEVER DO. So obviously no one (with commen sense that is) has any faith in them.

actually they are in private beta testing and will realease a beta this summer i assume. they are answering questions and althought there are not many videos, the Q+As are enough for me

teddle will never be satified i could slap himin the face witht he game and he still say the crap he says

does anywon have his (TeDdle) mail or something, that way we could contact him when the game was done so we could find him in the game, that way we could all have our fun.

Praise the believers for they shall enter the kingdom of DARKFALL!!!
And domed are those trools that spreed their propaganda because they are completly FUCKED

Darkfall is probably going to come out.
When? I don't know, I don't really care... I'm gonna stick with LOTRO / AoC even if it does.
Am I a fanboy of either of those two games, not really.
Do I want Darkfall? Hell yea, the game will be amazing.

I do think the people defending darkfall, should just ignore the nay-sayers... If you are inteligent, you know that ' logic + internets = death phail ' so please, just when you see Teedle post some bullbologna like this, shake it off... what difference is it gonna make? You aren't gonna be happier when you say that hes wrong and you don't change his mind... The annoying nay-sayers feed off your disgust. All darkfall forums no matter where they are, are all just 'BLAH DF NEVAR BLAH' or 'ERABODY WHO DUN LYKE IT LEAVE' and it just goes back and forth.... I believe it was called...

FORUMFALL.

So both sides, I know that you will disregard my post but I'm REALLY bored and waiting for my death penalty to go away on LOTRO so don't think I care because I don't.

teedle:
Here is the problem with this game...

This game is outdated plain and simple. It has nothing going for it anymore apart from it trying to include everything in 1 single game. They have not even proven that they even have that yet so no one believes them. And even if they did not have everything (which would be ok) they still have not proven that even "1" of their features works as intended.

There are games coming out next year that have all of their features that are core to Darkfall in them and they have proven their concepts actually work. What has Aventurine done? nothing but talk, whilst their "proof" is nothing more then very outdated videos and screen shots.

Their graphics will be a huge factor in how well they do like it or not. Especially if Warhammer and Age of Conan do well , which of course they will. Does anyone honestly think people are going to give a damn that Darkfall dumbed down its graphics engine so that it could have better combat???? When those other 2 games have 100 x better graphics and are proven to work with the same sort of combat system?

All they really need to do to is show they have a combat system that works with servers that can support the constant massive battles that will (supposadely) happen in this game. And they have NEVER done that. With all the failed mmo's and now this game stinking of another dark and light you would think these guys have enough common sense to prove they are not talking shit but again for some reason - they never do.

No one is making any of this stuff up, all of the problems these guys have with non fanboys being a lot more pessimistic is SELF INFLICTED, and it would be very easy for them to sort this problem out but as I and many others have said THEY NEVER DO. So obviously no one (with commen sense that is) has any faith in them.

Only problem i see is you, nobody force you to follow darkfall.

You dont like darkfall why come here to annoy us?
Grow up kid:P