http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/175490

can't you tell?

And yet another useless attempt on trolling over darkfall by this AOC paid troll.

Maybe i should post a topic on warcry with a link to disgruntled beta-testers of AOC

I can make thousands of topics that way

Again poor attempt at trolling , not usefull on this forum

And warcry devs should really do something about this, the forum management is getting pathetic

AOC.

Performance. 2
Even tho the game is still in beta it had ovbious problems in handeling the hectic gameplay of PVP battles. Lowering the quality of the graphics helped abit but with over 5.0 raited pc you dont expect to have to go down to minimum to enjoy the game. There were several diffrent features that became notable in terms of performance.

a) Lag.
Qute a few times I had big lag spikes going up to red (10k ms) This seemed to be server internet connection and happend to often to my liking. PVP was ofc effected by this alot.

b) FPS.
Normal frames per second in the starting area with high settings and 2xAA was around 50 fps if standing still. Normal fluctuation was about 25-45 while moving. Not bad. But.. then came the bad part. The game quite frequently had long glitches - sending your fps all the way down to 2-3 fps and stoping completlee. This happened quite often when I looked behind my character but also while running fast forward for some time. This effected the PVP experience quite abit.

c) Game crashing.
THis was my biggest dissapointment. Game crashed way to often for my liking. It was affecting other players that I was talking but maybe not to the extend that I had. After few loading screens I had the chance of client freezing or just crashing to desktop. When trying to figure out why this was happening - I noticed that the game was using huge amount of Memory and it kept rising to about 1.6k causing the game to crash on the next loading screen. Most likely reason for that is very worring. Memory leak - Im almost afraid to mention this word cause it can be really hard to prevent but I could see no other reason. If current game has some memory leaks then Funcom will have torrid time fixing that in just one month. It could be a feature this game will have to live with alot longer. And that simply can't work in MMO game.

d) Bugs.
Ofc I ran into quite a few bugs while playing. Even the first NPC quest you did had the girl standing in locked position after you freed her. You would think that this could easily be fixed before beta event such as this. Gamed also buged up few times in terms of shadows when switching between diffrent settings - for example minimum to maximum. Then the shadows didn't follow your movements.

Few bugs noticed while in PVP were visual like the shadow bugs and walls not showing correct colours and even loosing all textures. Few times I fell thought the floors and got stuck. Still some work needed on the PVP mamps.

Class balance 3
Class balance was almost none existant in the game. While going throught the starting area I soon found out that melee was quite balanced while the casting classes were kinda one shotting everything at the start but then started to struggle big time towards the end on higher lvl mobs. When going into PVP at lvl 20 you figured out really fast what classes were dominating and who were dead all the time. I would have thought Funcom would have done more in balancing this basic when it comes to showing off their PVP system. But then - it was only lvl 20 and few games can provide perfect balance through all the content.

Class fun factor balance 2
Most melee classes were fun to play. Some more than others to. The high dmg classes (barbarian, assasin, ranger) gave alot of pleasure going around butchering pretty much everyone. At the same time it became more of a nightmare trying to play the magic classes - not to mention the "healing" classes that had almost no role and very few features to keep themselfs alive.

Loading screens 1
After you died in PVE or PVP you got teleported back to certain spawning points. The problem with this system is that every time this happened a loading screen popped up and when you were playing the more vulnarable classes it very often lead to you seeing more of those loading screens than actually enjoying the game. Loading screens are drag in every game but in PVP it is just horrible. Every time I see a loading screen it takes me from the game and gives me the chance to quit. High frustration lvl long term and not fun.

Mob Combat AI 2
First 5-6 lvls I played in starting area provided few mobs that I was hoping would be giving me some insight into how advanced the AI of the game would be. I was really dissapointed. The shielding system on the mobs worked to a degree but then only for melees. Considering this game is much more than slashing It became another boring factor for the casters - ending up as you felt kinda silly standing there - casting some spells on mobs that were hitting you. In other words - plain boring.

But worst part of the AI was the movement of the mobs. There were obiously some pathing problems that will probably be looked into. But the most unrealistic and just stupid part in PVE was that the Mobs moved in diffrent speed towards you. For example when you hit a mob that was sitting around a fire with 2 other mobs - just one came running towards you right away. While the other two desided to take 2 seconds standing up and then slooowly walking towards you while you were killing the first one. If there ever was a bad AI - then this was it. Very dissapointing since Funcom was talking about the AI beeing the strong part of the game.

User interface 5
Many parts of the user interface are good. Others are not. The positioning of the action panel and the lifesigns of player and target are good. But there were some really annoying factors that ruined the gameplay abit. For example you alwasy had tooltips showing up when you moved mouse over action button. That tooltip was huge and usually went over the lifesign of the mob you were killing. I tried multiple times to remove this feature from the action bar - but simply couldn't. Not without it affecting all other tooltips witch then become annoyingly slow. Group/team UI was very very bad. It showed up as tiny tiny bars in top left hand corner. Worst part tho was the Mob lifesigns in PVE. I desided to remove those from everything but the target. But then I could not see what the other mobs that were attacking me at the same time had much life. You would think this was easy feature to implement. Some parts of the UI are great - Others just plain bad. Needs alot of utilization to become usefull for diffrent classes.

lol what the hell does this have to do with Age of Conan? I don't even play it.

but since you brought it up...

Age of Conan Game Goes Gold:
Just last week 475,000 unique visitors went to the official Age of Conan websites, and the pre-order numbers in some important retail chains track as among the highest for any MMO launched.

But ya you're right.. It must really suck? lol

sure thing fanboi!

Come on try to find more useless post where 1 person dislikes news on darkfall being posted.

Its even directed at mmorpg itself so it has nothing to do with darkfall or with warcry, pointless troll

just imagine what kind of problems Darkfall Online must have if a big company like Funcom with all it's Dev's and experience still have the issues you posted about above..

1+1 = 2?

Ohhh yeh and you're not a fanboi bwhahahaha

Could your lies be anymore pathetic

Come on, cant you do anything better than postl inks to something totally irrelevant which isnt even about the game?

Make some more threads saying its Vaporware then

btw the 475.000 are not pre-orders but guests who viewed the site, Oh and "In some retail stores" rofl define some ...1 ... 2 ? AOC = Alot Of Crap

See, we can all write the same things as you but then about AOC, pointless troll

teedle:
just imagine what kind of problems Darkfall Online must have if a big company like Funcom with all it's Dev's and experience still have the issues you posted about above..

1+1 = 2?

Yeh or maybe Darkfall has been in production for that long because they are making a decent game with a lot less bugs and with pvp that consists out of more than AOC 3 button scripted pvp style?

Game over, pointless troll

lol you're completely gone

Isn't it weird how people who knock DF are called liars and DF followers say that the DF knockers cannot prove their points? I mean I just find it bizaare especially since DF has proved nothing at all. Of course DF follower blindly or ignorantly will dispute that by saying DF has nothing to prove... it is still fun to rattle thier cages and watch them foam at the mouth.

I understand waiting for games in development tho... I wonder when Barn Stormer II will ever hit the Comodore.

this is actully why darkfall is taking longer teedle so it doesn thave the issues AOC does its funny you cant see that. show how blind of a person you really are teedle

Are you guys COMPLETELY RETARDED!?!?!?

Name ONE MMORPG that has launched without issues?....I'm waiting. AOC is LAUNCHING. Say what you will about the game, but REAL LIVE PEOPLE WILL BE PLAYING IT. Weather it "sucks" doesn't matter. It released. DF has not.

The trick is to get your "innovative" game out in a REASONABLE amount of time, before someone else does. Best way to do that = INVESTORS. This company is way too small to develop a game with all of the content they want to implement without a MAJOR financial backer. But they refuse to release any information, in any capacity, that would pull in a major investor. I don't expect them to give you boners all the answers, but why not show PC Gamer or another reputable media source what they have to this point? I don't see any rational reason why they are so closed mouthed...other than the obvious, the game is BS.

You DF fanboi's keep whining that "it still take big money Co.'s 4-5 years", no shit. With the pocketbook Aventurine is working out of, it will take them about 20yrs to develop a game with this much ambition.

And by then some other MMO will have "been there, done that" and it will be to late for DF.

I don't understand why the fans of this game will not address the MAJOR issues involved with this game. You have no problems pointing out the faults of games that are in an actual Beta stage.

Why do you turn such a blind eye to the obvious lies and lack of information the DF dev's hand YOU? You're the ppl they are making this game for and they sh-t on you constantly.

You guys are like battered wives that will never leave a drunk, till he kills you. All the while your friends(other MMO gamers) are trying to help you.

Why?

hemi hemi hemi ig uess you willf ind out wont you . I know more than i let on but meh : )

Bla Bla bla we like the concept of DF, if some other game shows the same features we will like that too, you all at some point are the same fanbois else you wouldnt take the time to read up on it. So stop trying to divide the board into fans and pointless trolls please.

We like the idea
We dont know when it will be out
But all of that doesnt change the fact that this thread is completly irrelevant to the game or any news concerning it coming out or not.
And im just pointing out i can post the same irrelevant bullshit about AOC or any other MMO as he can do about Darkfall which doesnt help anyone .

Ohh and bloodyleach no one was called a liar , so maybe you should try the approach of reading a post before commenting on it

Nightfreak:
And yet another useless attempt on trolling over darkfall by this AOC paid troll.

Maybe i should post a topic on warcry with a link to disgruntled beta-testers of AOC

I can make thousands of topics that way

Again poor attempt at trolling , not usefull on this forum

And warcry devs should really do something about this, the forum management is getting pathetic

Same happens on MMOPRG.COM they keep attacking darkfall they even ask forum staff to remove darkfall by petition, but management dont care most forums want darkfall to be removed.

But go to general and say the truth about this, they ban you:P

But we will survive and one day have our ultimate pvp game!

Hehehe, that thread was funny. If you scroll down, you see that people still defend Darkfall, and even accuse the topic creator of trolling. Good work Teedle, you made me laugh. Oh, and please, I dont need to see your lame response like "Just as funny as Darkfall which is never coming out which breakes my aching breaking heart".

Also, your saying that numbers are a good thing... Maybe to make a few million, maybe, but it doesnt mean the game is good! Take World of Warcraft, for example. Its the most repetitive piece of shit I have evr laid eyes on, yet it dominates with its 10 million fan base. Their mostly a mix of gold farmers and asians, but still...

Games like that do nothing for innovation, they only spawn crappy knock offs and complete copies.

http://www.mortalonline.com

good night DarkFlop

Here's the bottom line:

AoC sucks right now.

It will get really fun like UO did. Then it will get really shitty, again, as UO did.

Then Warhammer Online will come out and just be a total flop, pvp timesink like Counterstrike.

Then we will still be coming back here pondering the purpose of life and why Darkfall still isn't released.

I win.

lol

teedle:
http://www.mortalonline.com

good night DarkFlop

What a fucking BASTARD always the same guy posting HATEFULL PROPAGANDA to discredit darkfall, tell me the truth as someone payed you because if your not your a retarded ASSHOLE!

HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE DARKFALL's FEATURES, YES MORTAL ONLINE HAS COPIED DARKFALL'S FIGHTING SYSTEM BUT THATS ALL YOU CANT COMPARE IT TO DARKFALL'S CRAFTING , BUILDING VARIETY, ECONOMICS, CUSTOMIZATION, UN-LIMITLESS AND FREEDOM TO ATTACK ANYONE ANYWHERE AND THE OPTION TO BE WHATEVER YOU WANT, FROM PIRATE TO KING OR A FAMOUS WEAPONSMITH AND WHO KNOWS MAYBE EVEN SAMURAI? (build kingdoms and chose your flag, have your own house and destroy it, no ending to the variety of options and features)

Mortal online characters HAVE A LIFETIME, they will all eventually and permanently DIE and DISAPPEAR, it has no crafting system or customization system, don't know about building but what i do know is that there are Zones in this game YOU CANNOT ATTACK PEOPLE IN TOWNS there are limits and areas!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlV3iTzAf9U&feature=related

http://www.darkfallchronicles.com/
Darkfall Chronicles

1mh4rd, be quiet, your not helping. Even if Darkfall falls, crashing and burning as you so (not) want it to Teedle, their will be Mortal Online which borrows large amounts of influence from Darkfall. Have any other great threads I can look at? As you seem to enjoy making me happy. =)

WAR will be a great game, even though its just polishing a WoW experience to a spit shine. Remember that game called Team Fortress 2? I dont remember their being a competition in this thread, but if there is then I win because I ate your toes. Hah, take that chaosloc!

The_Toe_Bighter98:
1mh4rd, be quiet, your not helping. Even if Darkfall falls, crashing and burning as you so (not) want it to Teedle, their will be Mortal Online which borrows large amounts of influence from Darkfall. Have any other great threads I can look at? As you seem to enjoy making me happy. =)

WAR will be a great game, even though its just polishing a WoW experience to a spit shine. Remember that game called Team Fortress 2? I dont remember their being a competition in this thread, but if there is then I win because I ate your toes. Hah, take that chaosloc!

ok maybe i wasnt helping but neither was teedle and i dont see u telling him to be quiet, and i might have been a lirl upset when i found out the this is just one of several posts saying darkfall wont happen or it will be crap so i go upset, at least give it a chance!

meh its pretty much what the human race has stooped to but whatever it going to hurt them in the long run.

not everyone but alot of people

1mh4rd:
ok maybe i wasnt helping but neither was teedle and i dont see u telling him to be quiet, and i might have been a lirl upset when i found out the this is just one of several posts saying darkfall wont happen or it will be crap so i go upset, at least give it a chance!

Well, Teedle is apparently doing this for fun so trying to piss him off wont work, in fact thats what apparently keeps bringing him back. Either just accept that he/she/freakish squid creature wont be leaving soon, take his posts less seriously and you will be fine.

yamisniper:
meh it spretty much what the human race as stooped to but whate ver it going to hurt them in the wrong run

Your as guilty as Teedle is yami. You continually respond to him, bringing Teedle back and back again. Remember, he/she/freakish squid creature is just a troll. What was that about the human race...?

I love you all

teedle:
I love you all

Just like you love Darkfall. =P

yamisniper:
meh it spretty much what the human race as stooped to but whate ver it going to hurt them in the wrong run

WTF!?!? I actually winced when I read that, now i have a headache.

The_Toe_Bighter98:
1mh4rd, be quiet, your not helping. Even if Darkfall falls, crashing and burning as you so (not) want it to Teedle, their will be Mortal Online which borrows large amounts of influence from Darkfall. Have any other great threads I can look at? As you seem to enjoy making me happy. =)

WAR will be a great game, even though its just polishing a WoW experience to a spit shine. Remember that game called Team Fortress 2? I dont remember their being a competition in this thread, but if there is then I win because I ate your toes. Hah, take that chaosloc!

2 points for formulating a mildly amusing post. I'm still in the lead.

chaosloc:
2 points for formulating a mildly amusing post. I'm still in the lead.

But I ate your toes, you snob. "Mildly amusing"? Who are you trying to impress? =P

I dont know how you can be in the lead by just saying a game will never reach final production. Seems lazy, and incompetent. Yes, the Darkfall has been in production for years, but thats only because they announced it the second they had the idea for it. Not to mention, they dont have a large company with several million dollars behind them, so no AOC pointers please.

Now, to wait for Teedle to reply... "Casts fishing rod into the water, waiting"

The_Toe_Bighter98:

chaosloc:
2 points for formulating a mildly amusing post. I'm still in the lead.

But I ate your toes, you snob. "Mildly amusing"? Who are you trying to impress? =P

I dont know how you can be in the lead by just saying a game will never reach final production. Seems lazy, and incompetent. Yes, the Darkfall has been in production for years, but thats only because they announced it the second they had the idea for it. Not to mention, they dont have a large company with several million dollars behind them, so no AOC pointers please.

Now, to wait for Teedle to reply... "Casts fishing rod into the water, waiting"

We have a winner ! Now reel that fish in and fry it

chaosloc:

The_Toe_Bighter98:
1mh4rd, be quiet, your not helping. Even if Darkfall falls, crashing and burning as you so (not) want it to Teedle, their will be Mortal Online which borrows large amounts of influence from Darkfall. Have any other great threads I can look at? As you seem to enjoy making me happy. =)

WAR will be a great game, even though its just polishing a WoW experience to a spit shine. Remember that game called Team Fortress 2? I dont remember their being a competition in this thread, but if there is then I win because I ate your toes. Hah, take that chaosloc!

2 points for formulating a mildly amusing post. I'm still in the lead.

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hummm..... asshole?

man, now i know were i know you u are from?
I knew i recognize u from somewhere YOU ARE THE EVE FANATIC FROM YOUTUBE, so what have you been doing in the last months( besides being an asshole) , you used to be a stutch a prick and curse to everyone,(i mean you still are a prick just not to everyone)have you been to any anger management or yoga classes?
And saying darkfall will crash and burn i mean WTF, at least darkfall isn't a piece of shit like EVE talking a about crashing and burning, it got released but it's still a piece a shit, go back to eve!

oh one more thing "2 points for formulating a mildly amusing post" not a very nice thing to say ,i mean are you a critic or are you just an asshole for a living. Write something as good as that lame post or ................. ......... ill say mean thing's about you and hurt your feelings, and possibly shoot you in the face several times

dearly your's: darthvader and the dude that owned your eve adoring ass(and possibly yo daddy)

ps: fuck you ( and be nice to yo daddy)

teedle: but darkfall is crap, join me and hitler let's rule the world!
*i appear behind teedle and viciously set him on fire (GASOLINE AND MATCHES) while brutally laughing them disappear*

1mh4rd:

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hummm..... asshole?

man, now i know were i know you u are from?
I knew i recognize u from somewhere YOU ARE THE EVE FANATIC FROM YOUTUBE, so what have you been doing in the last months( besides being an asshole) , you used to be a stutch a prick and curse to everyone,(i mean you still are a prick just not to everyone)have you been to any anger management or yoga classes?
And saying darkfall will crash and burn i mean WTF, at least darkfall isn't a piece of shit like EVE talking a about crashing and burning, it got released but it's still a piece a shit, go back to eve!

oh one more thing "2 points for formulating a mildly amusing post" not a very nice thing to say ,i mean are you a critic or are you just an asshole for a living. Write something as good as that lame post or ................. ......... ill say mean thing's about you and hurt your feelings, and possibly shoot