Theres your problem (joke). In all fairness, It was mass market drivel, but a lot more people watched it. The reason being, A lot of people started the "Kirk vs Picard" syndrome, and that caused a stigma of..."Trekkie Nerd". If i wasnt at work i'd post picture examples. Theres no need to be arsey to your friend, she may have been ignorant, But as long as she didnt act all arsey, then you never know, She may get into real star trek. | |
Yes, I suppose it's true that women are a problem. Er.. I mean, are good caring people whom we um.. good things.. But really, she was genuinly thinking she was such a big fan, calling herself a Trekkie, because she bought the movie, went to the website, and "even have a couple of the desktops on my laptop". I was like, "Did you just list those things as though they were accomplishments?" I told her it'd take more than that to be a Trekkie. And then she got all indignant on me and I told her I'd prove it buy getting other people's opinions, hense the thread. It's like if someone played through a few levels of Mario and then declared that they knew everything there is to know about Mario. Sigh. Kids these days. | |
I was wondering, how long have you all been fans of Star Trek? What got you going? I first started when I was 8 or so, and my friend Jason said I had to watch this cool new show: Star Trek: the Next Generation. I thought it was a really sweet show, and I decided, once the series was over, that I'd catch up on all that came before, so I started watching all the reruns on tv, and soon I found out about Deep Space Nine, then Voyager came on, and it was something that I would stick with throughout the years. | |
If you are worried about this "problem"...then you can call yourself a Trekkie. | |
Seriously though, I feel the same way. I hated everything about the recent movie. EVERYTHING. I am a Trekkie, and have no problem saying I am a Trekkie. That being said, it was obvious from the moment Abrams opened his mouth about making a ST movie. Actually no, it was before then. When Ronald Moore came out and stated he wanted to remake ST. Reboot the whole damn thing. You knew this movie was coming. Now we all know Ronald Moore didn't get his chance at ST, but did get the job done with Battlestar Gallactica. I will admit I didn't like the idea of a reboot, but was pleasantly surprised with his vision of Battlestar. (And don't get me wrong, I dislike Ronald Moore). That said, ANY Trekkie that said they were for the reboot, is out right lying. Of course don't let us forget, Abrams vision of "Cloverleaf", was born from a visit to Japan and seeing all the merchandise from Godzilla. It was a money grab. He wanted his own Godzilla. When I heard a new ST movie was being done, there was a lot of rumors flying about what it was. When I heard he was in charge of it, and wanted to reboot it. I was livid. I purposefully didn't watch the movie, I boycotted it. Why? The reason we as a fan base was given for the reboot. "WE" were the ones responsible for the lack of ratings. Not the poor writing (as ENT proved), not purposefully sexed up prop characters (which started in VOY and continued with ENT). We were all told ST was over exposed. That they couldn't figure a way to continue the story after Nemesis. So the only course of action was to scrap the entire franchise and start over. Of course in order to have a definitive opinion I needed to watch it. So I reluctantly was able to watch a friend's copy. The last thing I wanted to do was pay $10 to form an opinion. For entertainment purposes, the movie did it's job. It was promoted correctly, and was given a wide audience. The fact they used "young, hot actors/actresses" was the main reason why it got the audience it did. Nothing more. It was the same old ST story. (The same old full-of-holes story we as true Trekkie fans were all used to). The only difference was the promotion and actors in it. You cannot deny the movie worked, since it made money...and that was the WHOLE purpose of the reboot. That being said, as a Trekkie. The story spat in the face of the fanbase. It took everything the fanbase loved, and trashed it for money. THAT is why I will NEVER consider the 2009 Star Trek, as TRUE Star Trek. The money makers will soon find out. The only TRUE fan they had will still watch anything with the name Star Trek sprayed on it. But the casual fan, the ones they got for the 2009 remake, the ones responsible for making them all the money, will not be there in 2012. RIP ST: 1966-2009 | |
See, that's why I don't really consider myself as a Trekkie, I'm almost a Trekkie. It's because I don't look for all the mistakes that were made or the flaws in whatever, I just enjoy what I'm given. Now don't get me wrong, I'll sit down and talk with whoever about what went wrong and what went right, or what could have been or shouldn't have been, but I'm still going to watch the new movie and enjoy it because I find it gives me all of what I want Star Trek to give me. That may put me in a poor position as far as true Trekkies are concerned, but generally I'm okay with that. I do agree with everything you say, though, and I think Abrams was in it for the money, but really ..these days when there are so many sequels and remakes, isn't every director? I will say that he did a good job though, in keeping Star Trek as something people will enjoy. If that gets new people interested, great! (keep in mind my complaint was with people who have seen the newest movie and now call themselves experts in all things Star Trek, yet they're oblivious to Star Trek's history). Anyway, thank you very much for your contribution! Very much appreciated. | |
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Okay, so I'm not an official Trekker/Trekkie, more like an unofficial Trekker/Trekkie, but I thought I'd bring up the issue of people who call themselves Star Trek fans because of the newest movie, as if it's the latest trend, rather than being a fan of everything Star Trek.
So I was talking with a friend the other day and she said that she just watched the Star Trek movie and liked it very much. I asked her which one she watched, and she asked "What do you mean? There's just the one, the sequel hasn't come out yet."
I had to explain to her that there were 10 other films that came before it which range over the span of 20 years. She was surprize Star Trek had been around that long, and she didn't even know who Leonard Nimoy was. Sigh.
Let me clarify that I'm not against this new movie, or even against people becoming fans because of the new movie, just as long as they look into the rest of all that is Star Trek, or at least the other films; what I don't like is the people who don't know anything about Star Trek before this latest movie, and yet call themselves Star Trek fans. It's like they'll call themselves Trekkies without even knowing where that term even came from.
Maybe this is a bit of an over reaction, but what do you guys think?