I played EVE ages ago...probably ~2 years or so ago. I only played maybe 8 or 9 months, but enjoyed my time there.

Given the expansive time frame that has elapsed, just how terribly disadvantaged would I be to jump back in? Are the vast majority of players cruising around in Mega-deathships while I'd be puttering around on a tug boat?

In regard to skills....I understand they take real-time to train. I'm guessing most of these players have most (maybe all?) already trained and I would be at Level 0.

I'm debating hopping back in and playing around a bit, but I can't really justify playing if it's just going to be a headache every night avoiding planet-destroying behemoths while I zip in and out in my space-ship version of a Ford Fiesta.

Haha- not to worry. There are many people who have a gazillion skills in EVE and can pilot lots of ships and do lots of things.....The best part about this, though, is that there is no 'best ship' in EVE at all. Giant capital ships that take many months to train are good for some things, while other ships, even little tiny ones that can be trained in a week, are great at others.

True, I've only been around EVE for several months, but I can almost guarantee that your lack of piloting skills will not be a hindrance at all. It's just, the more skills you get, the wider your versatility will be. Just because you're good in a smaller amount of situations now definitely doesn't mean EVE won't be fun.

Plus....*sniff*......You must get back into EVE- I've never even talked to a real WarCryer ingame before.....

I'm just going to curl up into a ball and weep for a bit :P

I wonder if I could find my old account info....maybe I could log in to that one day and see what's up.

EDIT:
That's a negative on remembering my info.

EDIT2:
HA. Found it.

Also:
Requested Deactivation
8/2/2004 4:36:00 AM

Moon: Come back.

The game just a major update and there are TONS of noobs flying around.

Don't get caught up in the "bigger is better" mentality. Bigger is definitely NOT better when it comes to EVE. A battle ship can't even touch me when flying my frigate, because that is not what they are designed to do. You can become as "skilled" as anyone else in the game if you choose a specific goal and stick with it.

The only benifit(other than experience)a veteran player would have over you, is that they MAY be better on a more broad scale. But you can quickly become highly skilled in a couple of areas that will make you a asset to have.

I can fly most anything, but I still choose to fly frigates. In a gang, we can take on ships MUCH larger and more powerful than our own.

Besides, if you start a new character you get 2x training speed for the first 1.6 million skill points. To give you an idea of how long that would last: I have been training an alt on a trial acount(15 day)non-stop and he only has 800k+ skill points and only has 3 days left on the trial! So the bonus training speed would probably last you the first 30 days.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. Surprised Guitar hasn't responded to this...must be playing EVE.

Tell you what....send me a buddy invite if you can. I'll set up a Trial Sub. anyway. I'll dip my foot back into the waters and see what happens.

I'll PM my email address.

Sent. The buddy trial is 21 days :)

Don't worry about sticking with the trial account if you want to use your old toon. If you trained him for the 8-9 months you played he may be a better starting point, once you check out the game again with the trial.

Have fun!

One more thing, you might want to look into joining Eve University. They are taking new players right now and will really help you see what the "big deal" is with EVE.

Here: http://www.eve-ivy.com/index.php

Thanks Hemi!

Np. Hope you can find the fun in this game that I do. When/if you feel like giving up, try that link first.

Do you have any links showing different ship-styles from the different races?

I really don't have a preference on one over the other, but I would enjoy having nice looking ships to stare at.

I got myself up to a BS. Had no desire to play pew pew with pirates in low sec, jumped ship.

Left about 2billion in assets just lying around on 2 accounts (other had a hulk)

It got to be beyond boring that it was almost a job.

Heres a link that shows ships by race, tech level and class.

http://www.eveonlineships.com/ (Gallery links are mid-page)

The Gallente ships are pretty cool looking, but I'm a missile guy so its Caldari for me.

To give you a rundown of the ships,

Amarr are the religious freaks. All their ships are bronze-gold colour, and feature what would be the closest to "high-elvish" architecture... in space. They've got smooth, almost domed shapes with usually a few weird stuff underneath. Like a jelly-fish almost. They probably have the most "normal" looking ships and the most symmetrical.

Caldari are right the opposite of this. They follow an art style that is a lot more similar to what many science fiction movies take for Terran ships. They are mostly metal colour and they very rarely show any signs of symmetry. It's all function over form. Lots of spires sticking out and that sort.

Gallente would be like the alien art direction. They have very smooth ships with lots of lights and most of them border on symmetrical, but there is always one oddity that breaks that in most of their ships. They are quite compact and prefer a green/teal colouring.

Minmatar, well... they took a bunch of plywood, stuck some chewing gum and wrapped tape around it. That's Minmatar. They also have the most "balls-to-the-wall" look of all ships.

Remember that depending on what race you choose to play, your starting weaponry will depend on your race. Amarr are lasers. Caldari are missiles and a little bit of blasters. Gallente are blasters and Minmatar are projectiles and a little bit of missiles. You don't have to be a Gallente to fly Gallente ships, though. You just need to train the skills for them, and it doesn't take very long at all.
I started out as a Minmatar myself and then changed to Caldari ships and now I'm flying Gallente ships. Race doesn't matter, but your preferred weapons do. If you want blasters, you'll have to fly Gallente ships because they give you bonuses to blasters. Amarr have bonuses to lasers, and so on.

I liked the idea of long-range artillery turrets, so I rolled Minmatar to start.

Gallente would still be the best for long range. Minmatar weapons are kinda meh in my opinion compared to it.

You wouldn't say that when you get plastered in one volley at 150k from a tempest.

If I had railguns and a good tank? Yea I probably would.

guitar:
You wouldn't say that when you get plastered in one volley at 150k from a tempest.

I dunno- ever been up against a railgun-sniping Rokh or Megathron before? Sometimes even better distance, and a higher DPS on top of that, although the plaster-in-one-volley potential isn't all that good. Poor little Tempest (which I love to fly, don't get me wrong) is stuck with projectile artilleries in long-range engagements which suffer from a rather terrible rate of fire.

Before I became the proud owner of the Nyx and then the Nyx 2.0, I would usually bring my snipe-fitted Mega to fleet engagements, so I know what you are saying. I prefer them.
What I am trying to say is not to write-off the tempest so easily. It bites more than you think. Although I've never flown it personally, I've seen what it can do.

It is a fun ship to fly. Its biggest problem, though, is the same problem most Minmatar ships suffer from: it's very versatile. You can make it into an EWAR boat, you can shield tank it (badly), you can armor tank it (somewhat less badly), you can fit it up as a giant Christmas ornament for all people seem to do with it sometimes.... Makes Minmatar pilots have to do an awful lot of support skill training, missile training, shield training.....I guess I'll turn this into a little commentary on Matari ships, then :P

All in all, Minmatar have the most versatile ships in the game- this means that they can be the most dangerous in PvP due to their unpredictability, but it also means that the pilot flying Minmatar has to really know what he's doing. Needs lots of skills, needs to know what works for certain situations.... Ah well- I love being Minmatar, and I'll continue being Minmatar, simply because they have the most awesome looking ships in EVE (it's true- ever seen a Naglfar?).

The dreadnought? That stick?
Meh, if you want beautiful Matari ships then the Rifter hull is a prime example. Simple, functional, and beautiful. That new BC Hurricane follows the same philosophy. I got me one when they just came out, but barely every flown it. I opted for the Drake for ratting.

I was following okay for a while.

Then I got lost again.

Damn beer.

Speaking of the Rifter, Boobpenguin, when I just started out I flew that paperclip to death.
Your concerns about being outclassed by players with big ships is unfounded. There are no such things as "Mega-deathships". A Battleship simply cannot do any kind of significant damage to a frigate. Unless that BS is specificaly fitted to kill frigates, but that would be a waste. I don't think I've ever seen a BS with small fittings. Except one time when our gatecamp fished up some idiot in a navy mega with civilian fittings. In low-sec. That one was a good, long laugh.
But back on topic, I'm the proud owner of one dead and one live Nyx and flown them to fleet engagements when one was needed. A Nyx is the Gallente Mothership. And though I have the skills to fly these huge ships, most of the time I don't. I can't. I've mostly flown around on my Ares inty and a speed-fitted Deimos (that's a HAC). I still fly my inty. And I've probably lost more of them than I chalked up kills, but the best part about them is they are so easily replaceable. And they aren't only good for just tackling. I've killed a Raven (that's the Caldari Battleship) in my inty. Granted, it took me I think 15mins and he was fitted for ratting, with no friendlies in the area, but hey I killed him. Couldn't fit any of his loot in my hold, though :P So I started blasting the can and then finally his buddies showed up so I had to scram. Oh and now that I'm remembering more of this, one of those buddies that showed up chased me to the gate, alone, where I killed him too =). I don't recall what he was flying, though. Another inty or something small cause he was right on my tail.

People kill frigates with BSs all the time?

Which frigs? Rats?

If you're getting blown by that BS then you're doing something wrong. And that would most likely mean that you're getting webbed.

The thing people do wrong is set their frigs up to gank people.

It's actually quite easy to take a BS and get a frig killing set up.

I tried I really did to get into Eve, but I didn't find it particularily fun being owned by those mega deathships while I had my little tug boat.

quickpaw:
I tried I really did to get into Eve, but I didn't find it particularily fun being owned by those mega deathships while I had my little tug boat.

As we've discussed earlier in the thread, those mega deathships really aren't good at killing little tug boats.....Unless you're doing something wrong or the people in the huge ships have help.

Unlike a game like WoW, EVE is not a game about problem solving. See, in WoW, there is a 'best possible combination' of armor and spells and equipment that you can get at the really high levels. These are better than any other gear of their type in the entire game and are thus used by almost all people when they can afford them/use them. In WoW, you see the illusion of choice, when it's really just problem solving.

In EVE, there are actual choices. This means that no one ship and no one set of ship equipment is the best. Take the Titan, for example: takes the longest to train of any ship in the game, and it's the most expensive. If WoW mechanics applied, it would be the ship everyone aims for and hopes to fly in one day because it's simply better than the rest of the ships out there. Well, in EVE, the Titan is (as usual) a ship that fills a role. The only time a Titan is useful is as a support ship in huge fleets during massive battles. Take a Titan out to do a mission, and that'll end badly, take a Titan out to go PvP solo, and that'll most likely end with the destruction of said Titan.

Crap.

Okay, TL;DR version: every ship in EVE has a niche to fill, some more narrow than others. Just because you're in a small ship does not by any stretch mean that you are at a disadvantage.

Antidamacus:
The thing people do wrong is set their frigs up to gank people.

It's actually quite easy to take a BS and get a frig killing set up.

And like I've said, that would be a waste =). You take your 100mill BS (plus fittings) and fit it for frig killing and if you get caught by another BS that has proper fittings then, well, you're stir-fry.
If you're looking for a frig-killing setup you'll find yourself either in another frig or better yet an inty. You lose your inty that's around 10-15mill for the ship plus your fittings. Not to mention that BS ships don't get any bonuses to small weaponry.

I'd probably play EVE, if I had the means to pay it.
Sounds like a cool concept and I really like space warfare.

One thing about EVE I like is the ability to buy game time from other players through in-game currency.

guitar:

And like I've said, that would be a waste =). You take your 100mill BS (plus fittings) and fit it for frig killing and if you get caught by another BS that has proper fittings then, well, you're stir-fry.
If you're looking for a frig-killing setup you'll find yourself either in another frig or better yet an inty. You lose your inty that's around 10-15mill for the ship plus your fittings. Not to mention that BS ships don't get any bonuses to small weaponry.

Yea but people see a rifter and they know it's a ganker. People see a BS and think easy pickings. There is always someone out there who can take you eventually. But watching little ships try to go for big kills and getting nailed is hilarious.

Antidamacus:

guitar:

And like I've said, that would be a waste =). You take your 100mill BS (plus fittings) and fit it for frig killing and if you get caught by another BS that has proper fittings then, well, you're stir-fry.
If you're looking for a frig-killing setup you'll find yourself either in another frig or better yet an inty. You lose your inty that's around 10-15mill for the ship plus your fittings. Not to mention that BS ships don't get any bonuses to small weaponry.

Yea but people see a rifter and they know it's a ganker. People see a BS and think easy pickings. There is always someone out there who can take you eventually. But watching little ships try to go for big kills and getting nailed is hilarious.

Do you really want me to get the killmail of the two jaguars taking down a navy mega? I have it somewhere

smallharmlesskitten:

Do you really want me to get the killmail of the two jaguars taking down a navy mega? I have it somewhere

And I can get killmail of Megas taking down Jaguars. I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.

I think it all began by trying to assure our penguin that he'll be just fine zipping around in his Ford Fiesta.