In the last day or two Turbine has banned roughly 250 players from elite guilds across many servers. Whether this is an attempt to force players into their Free-To-Play model or for some nefarious reason the timing couldn't be worse.

On top of the ~ 250 banned players the result was mass cancellations by other players that were guild mates or friends or even just even fed up with the mess that is now DDO. Today I uninstalled every piece of Turbine software on my machine. I would not touch this game now with a 10 foot pool.

The bans were because people were using an outside hack to gain extra XP. So the bans were worthy and anyone crying over this and quitting is well good riddance.

Yes and no. It wasn't an outside hack, it was just repeating a quest. It was obviously wrong, but the people I knew that did it already had 10 or more level 16 characters. After Turbine delayed their last update by almost a year, boredom was attacking them pretty severely. When presented with the opportunity, they tried out new builds for fun -- this usually meant deleting other level 16 toons. It's not like they destabilized the economy or destroyed other players-- in fact-- they're now enabling complete rebuilds in the next mod. It's too bad they didn't put mod 9 out two months earlier.

beobalf:
Yes and no. It wasn't an outside hack, it was just repeating a quest. It was obviously wrong, but the people I knew that did it already had 10 or more level 16 characters. After Turbine delayed their last update by almost a year, boredom was attacking them pretty severely. When presented with the opportunity, they tried out new builds for fun -- this usually meant deleting other level 16 toons. It's not like they destabilized the economy or destroyed other players-- in fact-- they're now enabling complete rebuilds in the next mod. It's too bad they didn't put mod 9 out two months earlier.

It doesn't really matter what Turbine did. What the people did was against Turbine's TOS, and therefore bannable.

Is bannable even a word?

Agreed. If they were doing something that violates the ToS and the spirit of fairness in the game, Turbine has the right to ban them. So they and their friends took their toys and stomped off. *shrugs* Turbine is one of the more fair development houses out there. They wouldn't do something so drastic without cause.

These people used an exploit to get free xp and knew very well that what they were doing was against the ToS and was because of that a bannable offence. What you're saying is because a company banned people because that were not respecting the rules is a bad thing? That exploit was known by some people, and they decided to use it, myself I never tried it, I knew the risk wasn't worth it.

How many gamers have 'cheated' games, how many GM's either suspected or naively allowed the cheat to continue the fun. IMHO if the game has a flaw, then the game designers are at least 50% at fault.

Banning people causes bad rep, regardless of who did what.

Fix the Issue, take back the XP abuse, call it a 'dream sequence' and let the game continue.. Sheesh.

It's always strange to hear that people cheat or use hacks in a game. I grew up wanting to earn my ranks and PLAY the game...for fun. If you have to resort to using hacks and exploits to have play the game, what's the point? Is it really fun anymore? When I get bored with a game while waiting for an expansion, I move on & choose something else to play. If these people did something against Turbine's TOS, the ban is absolutely justified....boredom is not an excuse.

beobalf:
Yes and no. It wasn't an outside hack, it was just repeating a quest. It was obviously wrong, but the people I knew that did it already had 10 or more level 16 characters. After Turbine delayed their last update by almost a year, boredom was attacking them pretty severely. When presented with the opportunity, they tried out new builds for fun -- this usually meant deleting other level 16 toons. It's not like they destabilized the economy or destroyed other players-- in fact-- they're now enabling complete rebuilds in the next mod. It's too bad they didn't put mod 9 out two months earlier.

There was a bug that sent you to an area of the game you can't normally return to. An NPC then gave you some XP if you selected the right dialog options. This was 100% repeatable to gain a very small amount of XP. (You could leave other ways without exploiting the bug.)

Many of the players banned used a 3rd party app to automate this process (1,000s of times) and lvl to the cap.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news on this subject...... but...... alot of the members whose whole accounts got banned (including mine) were not farming xp as our characters are already level 20. I was running with another full guild on Orein in the shroud (which everyone farms or dies in part 4) and was the only one in my group banned for 15 days. I am now on day 7 waiting for a response from the in-game support that will never come. If you have issues with your Ban you need to contact account support and voice your concerns with them and make them help you with your ticket. The more people that "bug" them about this issue the more pressure they will have to investigate what is going on. It is rumored that this was all from a rogue GM but Turbine denies the rumor but again, they have no contact with in-game support (as they say) and therefore how would they really know anything about it?

Hopefully they will get to the bottom of this mass error but I doubt that they will actually ever investigate it. We pay their salaries so you would think that they would do something to help us out but they could care less about "customer service".

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