In the last day or two Turbine has banned roughly 250 players from elite guilds across many servers. Whether this is an attempt to force players into their Free-To-Play model or for some nefarious reason the timing couldn't be worse.

On top of the ~ 250 banned players the result was mass cancellations by other players that were guild mates or friends or even just even fed up with the mess that is now DDO. Today I uninstalled every piece of Turbine software on my machine. I would not touch this game now with a 10 foot pool.

What was were the reasons behind the bans?

I'm pretty sure Turbine won't resort to banning unless some serious infractions occurred, most likely major cheating.

Sigoya:
What was were the reasons behind the bans?

I'm pretty sure Turbine won't resort to banning unless some serious infractions occurred, most likely major cheating.

That's always been my experience with Turbine as well. People that get banned almost always do something deserving of said ban.

The bans were because people were using an outside hack to gain extra XP. So the bans were worthy and anyone crying over this and quitting is well good riddance.

Yes and no. It wasn't an outside hack, it was just repeating a quest. It was obviously wrong, but the people I knew that did it already had 10 or more level 16 characters. After Turbine delayed their last update by almost a year, boredom was attacking them pretty severely. When presented with the opportunity, they tried out new builds for fun -- this usually meant deleting other level 16 toons. It's not like they destabilized the economy or destroyed other players-- in fact-- they're now enabling complete rebuilds in the next mod. It's too bad they didn't put mod 9 out two months earlier.

beobalf:
Yes and no. It wasn't an outside hack, it was just repeating a quest. It was obviously wrong, but the people I knew that did it already had 10 or more level 16 characters. After Turbine delayed their last update by almost a year, boredom was attacking them pretty severely. When presented with the opportunity, they tried out new builds for fun -- this usually meant deleting other level 16 toons. It's not like they destabilized the economy or destroyed other players-- in fact-- they're now enabling complete rebuilds in the next mod. It's too bad they didn't put mod 9 out two months earlier.

It doesn't really matter what Turbine did. What the people did was against Turbine's TOS, and therefore bannable.

Is bannable even a word?

Agreed. If they were doing something that violates the ToS and the spirit of fairness in the game, Turbine has the right to ban them. So they and their friends took their toys and stomped off. *shrugs* Turbine is one of the more fair development houses out there. They wouldn't do something so drastic without cause.

Once again. Indeed.

It mostly sounds like (Ok..not sounds like they did) abuse a glitch in the game to give themselves an unfair advantage. I've never played a game that didn't count that as being against the TOS. So this of course is a common thing and joining the game when you did won't really change too much as long as you don't do anything bad too.

These people used an exploit to get free xp and knew very well that what they were doing was against the ToS and was because of that a bannable offence. What you're saying is because a company banned people because that were not respecting the rules is a bad thing? That exploit was known by some people, and they decided to use it, myself I never tried it, I knew the risk wasn't worth it.

How many gamers have 'cheated' games, how many GM's either suspected or naively allowed the cheat to continue the fun. IMHO if the game has a flaw, then the game designers are at least 50% at fault.

Banning people causes bad rep, regardless of who did what.

Fix the Issue, take back the XP abuse, call it a 'dream sequence' and let the game continue.. Sheesh.

It's always strange to hear that people cheat or use hacks in a game. I grew up wanting to earn my ranks and PLAY the game...for fun. If you have to resort to using hacks and exploits to have play the game, what's the point? Is it really fun anymore? When I get bored with a game while waiting for an expansion, I move on & choose something else to play. If these people did something against Turbine's TOS, the ban is absolutely justified....boredom is not an excuse.

diaryofawizard:
It's always strange to hear that people cheat or use hacks in a game. I grew up wanting to earn my ranks and PLAY the game...for fun. If you have to resort to using hacks and exploits to have play the game, what's the point? Is it really fun anymore? When I get bored with a game while waiting for an expansion, I move on & choose something else to play. If these people did something against Turbine's TOS, the ban is absolutely justified....boredom is not an excuse.

While I have no experience with D&DO I can say that if a game has cheat codes for it I will eventually use them. For me its more of a power trip; I want to be the proverbial untouchable badass in my game. After being on the power trip for an hour or so I grow bored with it and return to normal gameplay.

Have I ever tried cheating on an MMO? Of course not that's bloody suicide, I work hard to get my toons where they are and I'll be damned if I do anything to jeopardize that. No matter how tempting gold sellers may make it >_>

beobalf:
Yes and no. It wasn't an outside hack, it was just repeating a quest. It was obviously wrong, but the people I knew that did it already had 10 or more level 16 characters. After Turbine delayed their last update by almost a year, boredom was attacking them pretty severely. When presented with the opportunity, they tried out new builds for fun -- this usually meant deleting other level 16 toons. It's not like they destabilized the economy or destroyed other players-- in fact-- they're now enabling complete rebuilds in the next mod. It's too bad they didn't put mod 9 out two months earlier.

There was a bug that sent you to an area of the game you can't normally return to. An NPC then gave you some XP if you selected the right dialog options. This was 100% repeatable to gain a very small amount of XP. (You could leave other ways without exploiting the bug.)

Many of the players banned used a 3rd party app to automate this process (1,000s of times) and lvl to the cap.