Lineage II Junkie Sues NCsoft for His Addiction

| 20 Aug 2010 19:00
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A man who's spent over 20,000 hours playing Lineage II is suing NCsoft, claiming his addiction has made him unable to function in real life.

NCsoft has had a tough time in court recently, what with the $28 million victory Richard Garriott won from the publisher last month. It's probably safe to say that NCsoft was hoping it could avoid seeing the inside of a courtroom for quite some time, but it seems that such hopes were in vain. Now, the company finds itself the target of a new lawsuit from one of its most loyal players because he claims Lineage II is so addictive that it has effectively ruined his life.

Craig Smallwood of Hawaii is seeking unspecified monetary damages from the MMOG publisher because, according to the lawsuit, the man's addiction to Lineage II caused him to log over 20,000 hours with the game between 2005 and 2009. In layman's terms, that means the man spent over 833 days (or 2.28 years!) playing the MMOG. As a result, the man has become, "unable to function independently in usual daily activities such as getting up, getting dressed, bathing or communicating with family and friends."

Smallwood claims that NCsoft is negligent (and thus liable) because it failed, "to warn or instruct or adequately warn or instruct plaintiff and other players of Lineage II of its dangerous and defective characteristics, and of the safe and proper method of using the game." Exactly how one should play an MMOG in a "safe and proper method" isn't really explained, but I would love to hear that argument in court.

The last time I remember seeing a lawsuit like this was back in 2002, when Samuel Hirsch tried to sue a number of fast food restaurants for making their meals so tasty that they became addictive, resulting in his obesity and subsequent health problems. If history is due to repeat itself, then one would think Smallwood's lawsuit would also be dismissed. However, the presiding judge refused to dismiss some of Smallwood's claims, so it seems that the suit might actually make it to trial. That said, NCsoft submitted a filing on Tuesday requesting that the entire suit be dismissed.

Source: Wired via GamePolitics

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-Samurai-:

Jumplion:
I believe the recommended amount is 140 degrees, but I could be completely wrong.

Recommended =/= law.

As for the rest, read the above(or what would now be the previous page. You get it).

Recommended = Safety

McDonalds chose to waiver the safety of 700+ their customers to make a few extra bucks, they were bound to be put in their place eventually.

It's recommended to cook patties until it is healthy to eat, unless the customer wants otherwise I suppose. Doesn't mean that McDonalds shouldn't do it.

Burwood123:
If he knows it's addicting.. get help? Only in the US, would someone SUE someone else, for their own wrong doing

True :( any more this country just gets dumber and dumber. Of all the stupid things. Thank goodness he is banned from Lineage at least. Lazy, baby. Grow up why don't you. Oh and part of the lawsuit. No warning of addiction PFFFT only you can GET UP OUT OF THAT CHAIR It's not rocket science. How weak willed are you>

-Samurai-:

Jumplion:
Snipped because I'm tired of replying to walls of text that say the same things over and over.

Since you're not going to get it, I'm not gonna keep this up.

People can blame and sue others for their mistakes, but they're still the one that made the mistake. They're still the one that didn't use common sense. It's still their fault for messing up.

That's all.

*shrug* If the blame-ee never did it in the first place, there'd be nobody to blame.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm raging here, though I probably am, I'm just trying to clarify the subject. Besides, I like arguing, it's fun :D

She did not sue because there was no warning label. She did not sue because she dropped her cup. She sued because McDonalds wanted to give her a paltry $800 to cover her 3rd degree burn skin grafts. If the coffee was a much cooler temperature than was given, still warm/mildly hot, then her burns would have been a lot less worse and probably could have gone away scott free.

EDIT: And to clarify, I'm not siding with the NCsoft guy, read my original post on the first page.

..Yeah, this guy is going to get laughed out (hopefully) before anything even starts. Why America? Why must your legal system be more a money grab than anything productive?

People get sued in that country for petty reasons more than they have meals in a month..

-Samurai-:

Mr. Grey:
She was parked.

Her own grandson parked the car so she could add cream and sugar. Who said she was driving it?

You're right. The case was from 1992 so I didn't remember all the details. I checked but decided not to edit.

The point still stands. You know something is hot and has the potential to harm you. Handle it carefully. It was obviously hot(as I'm sure the steam coming out of it and the heat from the cup would indicate). Let it cool or open it somewhere that won't get it all over you should you spill it. Common sense.

Jumplion:

-Samurai-:
I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

3rd degree burns. That's the equivalent of catching on fire or being scaled in boiling water. Spilling mildly hot coffee, sure, then I could see it. But 3rd. fucking. degree. burns! That's McDonalds fault, whether she put it between her legs or not.

I think you guys are missing the point. Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.

Hot coffee will burn you if you spill it on yourself. Common sense says to handle it carefully. Spending too much time(2 freaking years) on a game will mess up your life if you let it. Common sense says don't let that happen.

If I drop my PSP on my foot and break a toe, do I sue them for making it heavy enough to break a toe and not putting a warning label on it? No. Instead, I use common sense and hold on to it tight enough not to drop it.

Common sense.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not siding with this guy. He could have stopped as much as he wanted, but he didn't and now relies on blaming people. What I find so hilarious from this guy is that if he sues NCSoft and wins, he'll just use that money to continue playing the game.

It's also kind of sad, but I'm laughing more than crying. Possibly crying from laughing too hard.

In the case of the elderly woman... well... The_root_of_all_evil handled that. Hot coffee, shouldn't be that hot.

I didn't say she handled it as a genius, but when you're that old - and very weak that you have to resort to holding it with your legs to steady it - and have gone through that kind of torment, she has every right to sue the people responsible. Besides, a judge knocked down the original award of millions to $640,000 and McDonald's saw to it to pay her some confidential amount before an appeal went through. McDonald's even ignored the settlement offers that was less than $640,000. They made their bed, they have to lie in it.

Hell, I'd sue if I went through that. I probably never will, though, for two reasons A) I don't drink coffee and B) even if I did, I'd handle it the farthest away from my body. Usually on a counter or so.

I lay full blame on the grandson, to be honest... who wouldn't offer to put cream and sugar in that coffee for their own grandmother?

If this is a publicity stunt it's a clever one...I'm highly interested in Lineage II right now.

Jumplion:
I believe the recommended amount is 140 degrees, but I could be completely wrong.

Recommended =/= law.

As for the rest, read the above(or what would now be the previous page. You get it).

Ridiculous! I would bring up another frivolous case to illustrate how unredeemably stupid this is, but it has been many times before me, so I won't.

DeadlyYellow:

Craig Smallwood:
This entertainment is so entertaining it must be illegal, let me call my lawyer!

Dude, learn some self control.

This is the most pathetic thing I've heard since I learned they're making a Fred movie.

Like this. Also: Kabouter Plop. whu..?

-Samurai-:
There is no legal or illegal temperature for serving beverages(That I can find, anyway. If you can find one, I'll happily retract that statement). If the company can heat it to 8000 degrees, they can serve it.

I believe the recommended amount is 140 degrees, but I could be completely wrong.

People learn at a very early age that "fire burn". Hot shit hurts. We all know it. Common sense dictates that you should be careful when handling things that could potentially hurt you.

She was careful! She was parked, in the passenger's seat, carefully adding sugar and whatnot to the coffee about to enjoy it. Then she spilled it, okay, well shit happens. But it was scalding. Again, look up some images on 3rd degree burns, they're absolutely brutal.

Lawsuits like this come about because people don't want to accept the fact that they screwed something up. They don't want to be responsible. They just want money.

She only asked for $20,000, just enough to cover her skin graft costs.

McDonalds counter-offered with $800.

Yes, what a greedy bitch.

Jumplion:
Snipped because I'm tired of replying to walls of text that say the same things over and over.

Since you're not going to get it, I'm not gonna keep this up.

People can blame and sue others for their mistakes, but they're still the one that made the mistake. They're still the one that didn't use common sense. It's still their fault for messing up.

That's all.

I have to say, I would love to see this guy win the case. No, seriously.

Been inside so long he must have forgot what is classed as acceptable and ridiculous.

The_root_of_all_evil:

The Liebeck case rested on the fact that the coffee was actually hotter than it could or should have been.

There is no legal or illegal temperature for serving beverages(That I can find, anyway. If you can find one, I'll happily retract that statement). If the company can heat it to 8000 degrees, they can serve it.

People learn at a very early age that "fire burn". Hot shit hurts. We all know it. Common sense dictates that you should be careful when handling things that could potentially hurt you. I'll quote myself:

Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.

Lawsuits like this come about because people don't want to accept the fact that they screwed something up. They don't want to be responsible. They just want money.

-Samurai-:
I think you guys are missing the point. Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.

The woman only wanted enough money to cover her skin grafts.

And McDonals was warned several times about this, infact there were reports of over over 300 cases similar to this. She was just the last straw on the camel's back.

Hot coffee will burn you if you spill it on yourself. Common sense says to handle it carefully. Spending too much time(2 freaking years) on a game will mess up your life if you let it. Common sense says don't let that happen.

If I drop my PSP on my foot and break a toe, do I sue them for making it heavy enough to break a toe and not putting a warning label on it? No. Instead, I use common sense and hold on to it tight enough not to drop it.

Common sense.

3rd. Degree. Burns. I was going to link an image of a 3rd degree burn, but decided against it, go to Google Images and see what one looks like.

Common sense dictates that coffee should not be unnecessarily hot, McDonalds served their coffee several degrees hotter than the standard requirement (I.E. scalding hot) and it happened with over 300 people, albeit with not as severe burns.

Are you seriously expecting a frail old woman to be able to withstand the temperature of scalding hot coffee?

EDIT: Pfft, scratch that, over 700 cases. Thanks Rooty.

Honestly, I'm actually surprised that no one has tried to sue WoW for the very same reason. I fear the future of this world...

Wakefield:
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week.

oh, didn't you hear about the woman that wanted to sue some guy that had called her a 'whore' over youtube?

it's been raining ridiculous lawsuits lately. don't they have like laws that prohibit wasting taxpayers' money like that?

It's like people don't understand the meaning of Frivolous lawsuit.

If the Judge doesn't throw out this case, It will sadden me.

...and he really thinks he can win? ...Pathetic

Next up alcoholics will be suing Jack Daniels, Guiness, and Absolute for making tasty beverages... My someone can sue Hershey's, Mars, and Godiva for their diabetes...

What's really sad is you would think this guy has people in his life that would see the signs of addiction and try to do something.. He should be suing his friends and family...

Wakefield:
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week.

Amen

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