Lineage II Junkie Sues NCsoft for His Addiction

| 20 Aug 2010 19:00
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A man who's spent over 20,000 hours playing Lineage II is suing NCsoft, claiming his addiction has made him unable to function in real life.

NCsoft has had a tough time in court recently, what with the $28 million victory Richard Garriott won from the publisher last month. It's probably safe to say that NCsoft was hoping it could avoid seeing the inside of a courtroom for quite some time, but it seems that such hopes were in vain. Now, the company finds itself the target of a new lawsuit from one of its most loyal players because he claims Lineage II is so addictive that it has effectively ruined his life.

Craig Smallwood of Hawaii is seeking unspecified monetary damages from the MMOG publisher because, according to the lawsuit, the man's addiction to Lineage II caused him to log over 20,000 hours with the game between 2005 and 2009. In layman's terms, that means the man spent over 833 days (or 2.28 years!) playing the MMOG. As a result, the man has become, "unable to function independently in usual daily activities such as getting up, getting dressed, bathing or communicating with family and friends."

Smallwood claims that NCsoft is negligent (and thus liable) because it failed, "to warn or instruct or adequately warn or instruct plaintiff and other players of Lineage II of its dangerous and defective characteristics, and of the safe and proper method of using the game." Exactly how one should play an MMOG in a "safe and proper method" isn't really explained, but I would love to hear that argument in court.

The last time I remember seeing a lawsuit like this was back in 2002, when Samuel Hirsch tried to sue a number of fast food restaurants for making their meals so tasty that they became addictive, resulting in his obesity and subsequent health problems. If history is due to repeat itself, then one would think Smallwood's lawsuit would also be dismissed. However, the presiding judge refused to dismiss some of Smallwood's claims, so it seems that the suit might actually make it to trial. That said, NCsoft submitted a filing on Tuesday requesting that the entire suit be dismissed.

Source: Wired via GamePolitics

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Egh. I was going to post a video here, but I don't know exactly how to do it. I'll be back in a second.

I'm back again.
I can't resist this.
It just... it fits too well!

EDIT: Fail, double post. -_- I feel embarassed at my attempt to be witty.

-Samurai-:

Mr. Grey:

-Samurai-:
Remember the moronic lady that spilled hot McDonalds coffee on herself and sued because there wasn't a warning label? I'm McDonalds does.

That seventy year old woman had third degree burns and required skin grafting because McDonald's had the coffee set to ten degrees hotter than it should have been. All to make more profit by squeezing out every ounce of juice that little bean had. The funny thing is... she barely made a scratch on their profits from how they brewed that coffee when she was awarded that few million.

Oh! And they were warned repeatedly about it, yet did nothing.

If you had third degree burns and required skin grafting all because of a company being careless for profit... wouldn't you sue?

I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

Ok, let's take a step back here:

The woman was right. Legally.

The Liebeck case rested on the fact that the coffee was actually hotter than it could or should have been.

Mrs Liebeck suffered burns

where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent. She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her down to 83 pounds. Two years of medical treatment followed.

Why so much damage? Well, McDonald's REQUIRES its coffee to be sold at 180-190F; this is despite being sued repeatedly for serving coffee that's both "unreasonably dangerous" and "defectively manufactured", which they've never denied.

In 2-7 seconds contact with your skin, it will create a third degree burn.

Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.

And worse

McDonald's quality control manager, Christopher Appleton, testified that this number of injuries was insufficient to cause the company to evaluate its practices.

Even with that balance against MaccyD's, they were found 80% responsible. Liebeck took 20% of the charges due to her own negligence.

Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, Wendy's, and Burger King have all been sued over coffee scalds and still continue, nay demand, that it's served at that temperature.

Hot coffee hurts, it really shouldn't deface.

So...Rockstar aren't the only ones to have been stung by Hot Coffee.

Having played Lineage II back in college a bit, I remember it being rather fun, though that might have had more to do with my whole floor in the dorm teaming up than the game itself. Everything is better with a bunch of friends.

Anyways, my point is I remember it flashing up warnings "You've been playing for 1 Hour, please considering taking a quick break" or for 4 hours or whatever. So this guy is totally crazy.

Jumplion:

-Samurai-:
I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

3rd degree burns. That's the equivalent of catching on fire or being scaled in boiling water. Spilling mildly hot coffee, sure, then I could see it. But 3rd. fucking. degree. burns! That's McDonalds fault, whether she put it between her legs or not.

Mr. Grey:
I thought they created rehabilitation centers for this kind of thing... couldn't he, ya know... check in?

-Samurai-:
Remember the moronic lady that spilled hot McDonalds coffee on herself and sued because there wasn't a warning label? I'm McDonalds does.

That seventy year old woman had third degree burns and required skin grafting because McDonald's had the coffee set to ten degrees hotter than it should have been. All to make more profit by squeezing out every ounce of juice that little bean had. The funny thing is... she barely made a scratch on their profits from how they brewed that coffee when she was awarded that few million.

Oh! And they were warned repeatedly about it, yet did nothing.

If you had third degree burns and required skin grafting all because of a company being careless for profit... wouldn't you sue?

Wow, I wasn't aware anyone actually sided with the lady on this one. It's hot coffee, and I was unaware there were standards for the temperature that coffee can be sold at. Seems to me it should be served just below boiling anyways. All I know is that since the lawsuit, coffee at McDonald's is now kept too cool and just isn't that good

I love legal cases like this xD

Like sueing McDonalds for making you fat, it's your own damn fault!

Mr. Grey:
She was parked.

Her own grandson parked the car so she could add cream and sugar. Who said she was driving it?

You're right. The case was from 1992 so I didn't remember all the details. I checked but decided not to edit.

The point still stands. You know something is hot and has the potential to harm you. Handle it carefully. It was obviously hot(as I'm sure the steam coming out of it and the heat from the cup would indicate). Let it cool or open it somewhere that won't get it all over you should you spill it. Common sense.

Jumplion:

-Samurai-:
I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

3rd degree burns. That's the equivalent of catching on fire or being scaled in boiling water. Spilling mildly hot coffee, sure, then I could see it. But 3rd. fucking. degree. burns! That's McDonalds fault, whether she put it between her legs or not.

I think you guys are missing the point. Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.

Hot coffee will burn you if you spill it on yourself. Common sense says to handle it carefully. Spending too much time(2 freaking years) on a game will mess up your life if you let it. Common sense says don't let that happen.

If I drop my PSP on my foot and break a toe, do I sue them for making it heavy enough to break a toe and not putting a warning label on it? No. Instead, I use common sense and hold on to it tight enough not to drop it.

Common sense.

This is so going to fall on it's face. This is like suing a beer company because you're a moron...well not exactly but you get me.

This is similar to the "eating McDonalds made me fat lawsuit", and equally stupid.

For Popcap's sake, I really hope this doesn't go too far.

How much would Peggle cost them in out of court fees?

-Samurai-:

Mr. Grey:

-Samurai-:
Remember the moronic lady that spilled hot McDonalds coffee on herself and sued because there wasn't a warning label? I'm McDonalds does.

That seventy year old woman had third degree burns and required skin grafting because McDonald's had the coffee set to ten degrees hotter than it should have been. All to make more profit by squeezing out every ounce of juice that little bean had. The funny thing is... she barely made a scratch on their profits from how they brewed that coffee when she was awarded that few million.

Oh! And they were warned repeatedly about it, yet did nothing.

If you had third degree burns and required skin grafting all because of a company being careless for profit... wouldn't you sue?

I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

She was parked.

Her own grandson parked the car so she could add cream and sugar. Who said she was driving it? Probably the media, since they love blowing this out of proportion just to get a good ratings bump.

I'm suing Yamaha for the condition of my Trombone. They didn't tell me it might get scratched and dented!!!

-Samurai-:
I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

3rd degree burns. That's the equivalent of catching on fire or being scaled in boiling water. Spilling mildly hot coffee, sure, then I could see it. But 3rd. fucking. degree. burns! That's McDonalds fault, whether she put it between her legs or not.

Mr. Grey:
I thought they created rehabilitation centers for this kind of thing... couldn't he, ya know... check in?

-Samurai-:
Remember the moronic lady that spilled hot McDonalds coffee on herself and sued because there wasn't a warning label? I'm McDonalds does.

That seventy year old woman had third degree burns and required skin grafting because McDonald's had the coffee set to ten degrees hotter than it should have been. All to make more profit by squeezing out every ounce of juice that little bean had. The funny thing is... she barely made a scratch on their profits from how they brewed that coffee when she was awarded that few million.

Oh! And they were warned repeatedly about it, yet did nothing.

If you had third degree burns and required skin grafting all because of a company being careless for profit... wouldn't you sue?

Oh, thank you, I didn't realize that "frivilous" lawsuit was pointed out, saved me the trouble of telling him :D

EDIT: Guess not...

Meh, there was a wow guy who blamed playing wow for his life of crime... happened before will happen again

Mr. Grey:

-Samurai-:
Remember the moronic lady that spilled hot McDonalds coffee on herself and sued because there wasn't a warning label? I'm McDonalds does.

That seventy year old woman had third degree burns and required skin grafting because McDonald's had the coffee set to ten degrees hotter than it should have been. All to make more profit by squeezing out every ounce of juice that little bean had. The funny thing is... she barely made a scratch on their profits from how they brewed that coffee when she was awarded that few million.

Oh! And they were warned repeatedly about it, yet did nothing.

If you had third degree burns and required skin grafting all because of a company being careless for profit... wouldn't you sue?

I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?

Let me first state that video game addiction is just like any other addiction out there and just as serious. You have people addicted to gambling, sex, various types of alcohol and drugs, coffee, candy, whateverthefuck, ect... and they all have their own special support groups for people who truly want to get better. Video games have as much potential to become addictive as any other medium, and to some it already is.

HOWEVER, people who are aware that they got addicted don't blame the supplyers (usually, depends on the addiction I suppose), they admit they have a problem and try to get help. This man is trying to blame others for his own choices without realizing it sooner. He's free to go to a support group, I'm sure there are even groups where people addicted to bananas can go to, but suing NCsoft for making a game that he chose to put so much time into and ignored his family. NCsoft can't predict how it's userbase will react to their games, they're not responsible for how you obsessed over it.

In other news, he only recently hit cap after 833 days played *da dum dum*

I would of loved to see the initial discussion regarding this case at the lawyer's office as this guy turned into a human lolipop right before the lawyer's eyes. Although, honestly, lawyers that take on these ridiculously frivalous cases aren't free of blame even if it is because they'll get paid either way.

I thought they created rehabilitation centers for this kind of thing... couldn't he, ya know... check in?

-Samurai-:
Remember the moronic lady that spilled hot McDonalds coffee on herself and sued because there wasn't a warning label? I'm McDonalds does.

That seventy year old woman had third degree burns and required skin grafting because McDonald's had the coffee set to ten degrees hotter than it should have been. All to make more profit by squeezing out every ounce of juice that little bean had. The funny thing is... she barely made a scratch on their profits from how they brewed that coffee when she was awarded that few million.

Oh! And they were warned repeatedly about it, yet did nothing.

If you had third degree burns and required skin grafting all because of a company being careless for profit... wouldn't you sue?

Im gonna sue the people who make this wall next to me because I felt compelled to bash my head against it over and over until it critically injured my skull. Its their fault because they made it too sturdy and hard.
The point I am trying to get across here is that you cant sue somebody for your own stupidity.

Why doesn't he just sue his parents for giving birth to him. It's obviously their fault that he is addicted to Lineage 2, and if they hadn't brought him into this world he could never have become addicted. Honestly, how did his parents not see all of this coming in the future? It's all their fault.

It amazes me what people will sue others over, my favorite being the women who spilled coffee on her lap, and sued because it was cold.

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