Producers Might &*@%ing Bleep The King's Speech

| 31 Jan 2011 21:54
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The King's Speech may get bleeps, in lieu of cuts, in order to obtain a more family-friendly rating.

The King's Speech producer Harvey Weinstein wants a PG-13 rating to broaden the Oscar-nominated film's potential audience. The film's stars and director are adamant against any new cuts, which would excise chunks of one expletive-filled scene. Star Geoffrey Rush told The Hollywood Reporter that the curses in question are used "almost like a tongue-twister. It's gobbledygook. But it's not aggressive, it's not offensive. It's not harmful. They should just 'bleep' it. If you cut it, then you're going cut one of the key thrills of the film." It sounds like director Tom Hooper might be taking that suggestion into consideration.

Talking to Entertainment Weekly, Hooper suggested that he may be looking at bleeping as a method of censorship, saying "I wouldn't support cutting the film in any way. I think we looked at whether it's possible to bleep out the f--s and stuff, but I'm not going to actually cut that part," further clarifying, "I'm not going to cut the film." He has not yet made a conclusive statement on the bleeps, and the Weinstein company has not commented on this latest development.

Helena Bonham Carter spoke to EW as well, arguing, "I don't think it needs to be cut down. I think every 13-year-old knows [the words], I think every 8-year-old [does]." The use of these words in the context presented in the film is certainly much less colorful than what I heard on the playground at age eight, that's for certain.

Source: Entertainment Weekly, The Hollywood Reporter

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To be honest you could host a screening of 'Blue' with the sound off and someone would find something offensive in it.

When I've heard 'fuck off mum' from a kid of about 5 on the bus, I don't think we really need to restrict hearing rude words to the over 18s, unless they've lived in a soundproofed cell since birth.

What's depressing is it's a good movie, with a real story, and the swearing is actually essential. It's not like they've just added a scene where Dane Cook kneels in front of the King and the King says 'Fucking arise, Sir Dicksplash, you unfunny fucker.'

Also, something I don't know, how do the ratings board treat someone telling another character ' I despise you, I wish you were dead, you're a worthless, hopeless waste of skin, you have no redeeming features, you're a soulless unlovable husk, empty of all that makes humanity good, and the world will be better off when you leave it. '

Personally, I'd find that far more damaging and hurtful than 'fuck off'.

this is a little off topic, but when was the last time any movie was rated G? it seems like if there is one context of someone swearing or slight violence, it gets bumped to PG.

Eri:
Movies should not be changed so more people can see it. It goes against the original spirit of the film. Not old enough? Wait till you're older.

Its not like they aren't making enough money with it.

This is what they want to censor:

Literally 30 seconds of the damn movie. That's why it was rated R, and that's what people are aiming to censor.

F*$# that.

I just watched South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut, and this is exactly what that movie was making a point of! American censors would allow violence on screen but would ban a film for bad language? i know the comparison is a bit extreme but they do make a point. I wouldnt know though since i live in Australia where we censor games like Left 4 Dead 2 for being gory, GTA IV for having a completely optional hooker interaction, Mortal Kombat for outrageous Fatalities which will turn our entire nation into serial killers. Why politicians continue to treat us adults like 5 year olds?

If parents took their kids to a "NC-17" film, I'd be surprised and worried over a parent that takes their kid to a rated "R" film. Does the rating of Pg and Pg-13 matter anymore?

Maybe they should be able to turn the bleeps on or off, like subtitles

If kids can listen to Michelle Bachmman they should be allowed to watch this movie unmolested.

Heck even if they can't, stop molesting kids.

Elizabeth Grunewald:
Helena Bonham Carter spoke to EW as well, arguing, "I don't think it needs to be cut down. I think every 13-year-old knows [the words], I think every 8-year-old [does]." The use of these words in the context presented in the film is certainly much less colorful than what I heard on the playground at age eight, that's for certain.

Said the woman who played Marla Singer in Fight Club. This role must feel like a [bleep]ing Disney film to her.

double post: delete please.

That would be retarded. The swearing is absolutely pivotal to the plot.

I have to say America's rating system is retarded. Why does it go straight from PG13 to R18? From one extreme to the other..

In Australia it goes PG - M(15 recommended but not enforced) - MA15+ (15+ only) - R (adults only 18+)

Diligent:

teh_gunslinger:

Diligent:

We really shouldn't hold ourselves as the paragon of sensible ratings though. Just recently the CRTC has decreed that Money for Nothing by Dire Straits is too offensive to play on the radio after 25 years.
Mind you that's not the movie ratings or anything...

I'm really against censorship in any form. The words they're talking about exist in everyday language, and in a movie geared towards adults it makes no sense to try to bleep them out or remove them so you don't hurt somebodies ears. As usual if you don't like it don't see it, and trying to change a scene in a movie so that it has a better chance at winning the oscars is the epitome of what is wrong with the movie industry these days.

Any chance you can elaborate on why the blazes they would prevent that from being played in the radio?

Why yes, yes I can. First of all, it was the CBSC (Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council) not the CRTC, that was a mistype. Second, because one person in Newfoundland called the CBSC and complained that he/she was offended by the word "faggot" in the song, it gets a nationwide radio ban, or must be edited to be played, but lots of stations are just pulling the song. Here is a link to the full story (and it shows the offending lyrics).
http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2011/01/12/16867536.html

This hot on the heels of the whole Huckleberry Finn censorship issue, and now talk of this movie...since when was it every single persons RIGHT not to be offended by anything ever?
I'm personally more offended by all this censorship.

Good grief, that is so silly! I've listened to that song a million times and never even noticed that I should be offended.

I agree. You have a right to be offended, but that does NOT trump every other persons right to figure out for themselves if they are offended. If (and it happens very rarely) I get offended I just decide that I will not listen/watch/read this in the future. I would NEVER invalidate other peoples choice to make up their own minds. That is, as you wisely say, offensive.

I would be your friend if ever we met.

This problem has a very simple solution. Somebody can watch the film before they add the bleeps then watch it again in the cinema and swear whenever a bleep sounds. That way someone can be safe in the knowledge that they played a vital role in the film and everyone else can watch a film how it is supposed to be seen.

Just don't do it if there are any young children around. Anyone under the age of 4 wont know what it means. Anyone 4 or older probably knows.

The MPAA fails on so many levels.

According to the MPAA, two uses of the word "fuck" will get you an R rating. Air Force One was one that just barely crossed that line, when in all honesty, it was a PG-13 film.

The King's Speech uses cursing in a therapeutic, non-confrontational, non-aggressive.

My husband and I just finally saw this movie (absolutely excellent by the way) this weekend. Our 5-year old also has a speech problem, and sees a therapist weekly. We were talking about having him watch it because he'd be able to relate. Our primary decision for not having our youngest watch it had nothing to do with the language. It was 100% because since it is a "grown up" movie, he'd just get bored and disinterested.

Not to mention that the MPAA has a history of disliking the Weinsteins, so that probably played a large role as well.

what kid 18 and under will want to go see this film without the coercion of parents?

Fuck censorship and FUCK those money hungry bloated uncreative marketing TWATS! Your impulses and idiotic decisions are a blight to every art form out there. You are what is keeping the gaming industry down and all we get is this shitty cookie cutter games no one but 8 year olds that fantasize about being a fucking space marine like.

What a spontaneous rant that was... If I'm angry it means I haven't smoked in a while. Time to fix that...

F**k yeah, Helena Bonham Carter. Keep awesome.

On a related note- I've heard the ratings system in the US is based on (one swearword- M, two swearwords- R), and that really pisses me off. Unless it's false.

I hope this censorship isn't international, but that would really screw me over. Not that I was planning on getting it, but, you know, morals 'n' shit. Australia seems far cooler with swearing. Except when it wants to impress the big boys. idk, the commercial channels are always really worried about it, but the government channels chuck 'em out like it's nobodies business.

TANGENT

Oh A(ustralian)BC, how I love you. You show the best shows, you have the best business values, a human public face, aren't afraid to do radically new things and hold yourself to an extremely high standard of journalism. Seriously, ABC News is the most unbiased news you will ever see, ever. They fucking know it too, and constantly make sure to keep their show very professional. I dunno, it's just compared to international news, their news is faster, less chatter-filled and more aesthetically pleasing.

Also, best intro music evaaaaaaaaaaaar

/patriotism

Marter:
This is why Canada's rating system makes more sense. It only got a PG rating here.

I work with the Ontario Film Board Ratings every day (I buy movies for a public library system) and I'm still astounded that the government-run ratings board that David Cronenberg condemned as totalitarian and in the same league as Iran's 30 years ago, is now the picture of reason compared to the MPAA. Looking at the ratings chart, language can only drive an OFRB rating above PG if it's "aggressive", contains slurs, or accompanied by sex or violence (in other words, content that would already drive the rating above PG).

But things can vary across the country. Quebec has a more European sensibility: they're pretty cool with sexuality, but violence drives the ratings way up. Manitoba's generally the opposite.

teh_gunslinger:

Diligent:

Marter:
This is why Canada's rating system makes more sense. It only got a PG rating here.

We really shouldn't hold ourselves as the paragon of sensible ratings though. Just recently the CRTC has decreed that Money for Nothing by Dire Straits is too offensive to play on the radio after 25 years.
Mind you that's not the movie ratings or anything...

I'm really against censorship in any form. The words they're talking about exist in everyday language, and in a movie geared towards adults it makes no sense to try to bleep them out or remove them so you don't hurt somebodies ears. As usual if you don't like it don't see it, and trying to change a scene in a movie so that it has a better chance at winning the oscars is the epitome of what is wrong with the movie industry these days.

Any chance you can elaborate on why the blazes they would prevent that from being played in the radio?

Why yes, yes I can. First of all, it was the CBSC (Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council) not the CRTC, that was a mistype. Second, because one person in Newfoundland called the CBSC and complained that he/she was offended by the word "faggot" in the song, it gets a nationwide radio ban, or must be edited to be played, but lots of stations are just pulling the song. Here is a link to the full story (and it shows the offending lyrics).
http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2011/01/12/16867536.html

This hot on the heels of the whole Huckleberry Finn censorship issue, and now talk of this movie...since when was it every single persons RIGHT not to be offended by anything ever?
I'm personally more offended by all this censorship.

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