DC Comics Will Soon Reveal Joker's True Name

| 28 Mar 2016 20:10
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Geoff Johns will be revealing the Joker's true identity in an upcoming issue of Justice League.

DC Comics is almost ready to launch its Rebirth event, a soft reboot which will resurrect many elements from the pre-New 52 universe. But it's also about to introduce new elements not all fans will enjoy - such as the Joker's secret identity.

Keeping the identity of Batman's archnemesis a secret has long been considered an essential part of his character. Even popular "origin stories" like The Killing Joke heavily imply Joker isn't quite sure where he came from, reinforcing the idea that he's a chaotic force of nature before an actual human being. That said, DC's chief creative officer Geoff Johns has slowly been laying the groundwork for Joker's identity in Justice League, which will culminate in a final reveal for Issue #50.

"The answer probably won't be an answer people predict," Johns told IGN.

Back in Justice League #42, Batman spent some time on the Moebius Chair that can access all knowledge in the universe. Of course, even he couldn't resist asking about Joker's true identity and was shocked at the result. You might even make a case that Scott Snyder's Batman series toyed in foreshadowing as well, when Batman managed to defeat Joker by threatening to reveal his real name. (Which Joker certainly didn't take well.)

So far, the New 52 has adopted an alternate version of Joker's history from The Killing Joke - he sparked an epic crime wave across Gotham under the moniker "Red Hood" before falling into acid that exacerbated pre-existing homicidal tendencies. Yet even then, fans never knew who Red Hood was, but Batman's reaction implies it will be a familiar figure. And since Rebirth is opening the floodgates on pre-New 52 canon, Joker could be anyone from decades of DC Universe history.

Justice League #50 arrives in May 25, concluding the long-running "Darkseid War" storyline. You won't be able to miss it, given the comic book fan rage Joker's reveal will spark across the Internet.

Source: IGN, via Screenrant

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Dead Metal:

elvor0:

Dead Metal:
Seeing how Joker is immortal now and older than Gotham, maybe he's George Washington. Or Jesus.

That turned out not to be the case didn't it? It was just The Joker screwing with a load of mentally ill people and to show his ability to get inside peoples heads wasn't it?

I'm...also not sure what the deal is here, he's canonically been Joe Kerr since a year or so after The Killing Joke became canon. And is still the case in New 52 as far as I'm aware.

Or not, the canon in the New 52 is fucking barmy. Sometimes certain things happened, sometimes they didn't, some characters remember it, but only when they're not around other characters that they rely on having been involved in those events, but for them it didn't happen. Now Pre 52 Superman and New 52 superman exist in the same timeline despite N52 being a corruption of that timeline and shit happens inside, outside cocurrent in the future of a past that might not have happened within itself and I've gone crosseyed.

No idea if that turned out to not be true, I was just told about it by a fan and read the coverage. DC is too confused with how they handle their continuity for me to care about their comics.
Wanted to start back with the New 52, thankfully I waited for the tpbs. Batman picked and choosed what was canon, Superman was a completely new start, Swamp Thing was a direct continuation completely ignoring the reboots of other titles, so I just tried another Marvel title and a few image titles instead.

It was more of a character building piece rather than hard truth. The Joker just tells a series of stories to patients from Arkham Asylum, each one being suited to the character he's telling it to. They're all very mentally ill patients who can barely tell what reality is. Even the bits where Gordon finds Joker in Newspaper clippings on the PC are reasonably strongly implied to just be photoshopped in. The whole thing is more the Joker showboating and more of a meta narrative on the character of The Joker being timeless rather than he him self as some mystical being.

Yeah the New 52 canon is whacky as all hell. In an attempt to lure new readers in by making things simple, they made things so complex and mad that even hardcore fans have no idea whats going on.

Synders New 52 run is pretty safe to read though I'd say, with afaik the only difference between now and pre 52 being Batgirls recovery from The Killing Joke.

This just in: DC will do anything, anything to try to make you interested in them again.

Zen Bard:
It's Joseph Kerr, isn't it?

At least, that's what it would be in the Gotham TV show.

Or maybe DC will decide to jump into the "Progressive" pool and we'll find out that the Joker is actually a transsexual woman (female to male) who was driven insane by the early attempt at hormone therapy that went horribly wrong. (I know that sounds snarky but given that DC is rebooting/redoing/restarting/reimagining/rereing their comics again, maybe they're just that desperate. I'm not predicting this, or expecting it, but it wouldn't shock me if it were to happen. Transsexuals are becoming the "it" group to be depicted in the entertainment industry these days, so I can see DC deciding to jump on that bandwagon.)

But to bring this back to the realm of likelihood, this will last for only as long as the writers want it to last. And in 4 years, maybe we'll find out that this guy isn't the ACTUAL Joker, but a copy-cat Joker and the REAL Joker is someone else. Maybe it will be that this guy is the Joker on Earth Delta, but not on Earth Prime (or whatever DC calls their main setting, like Marvel has Earth 616), and because of Storyline OS, Joker Delta got transported to Earth Prime. Or something else.

Maybe I'm getting jaded in my old age, but I've come to the conclusion that my own personal fan-fic is just as valid in terms of canon and continuity as the actual published comics themselves, and if I want the Joker to be Jack Napier, Joker will be Jack Napier no matter what the current writers decide his name is. So these sorts of reveals and storylines don't bother me in the least.

tl;dr : "Don't get your undies in a bunch - this too shall pass."

I think this is an incredibly stupid idea. Somethings are better left a mystery.

My money is on James Romine, and I pray to zombie Jesus that he doesn't find this and sue me for 10 million bucks.

American Fox:
Did we learn nothing from James Howlett?

I thought people liked the Wolverine Origins comic. It was the movie they hated.

elvor0:

Dead Metal:
Seeing how Joker is immortal now and older than Gotham, maybe he's George Washington. Or Jesus.

That turned out not to be the case didn't it? It was just The Joker screwing with a load of mentally ill people and to show his ability to get inside peoples heads wasn't it?

I'm...also not sure what the deal is here, he's canonically been Joe Kerr since a year or so after The Killing Joke became canon. And is still the case in New 52 as far as I'm aware.

Or not, the canon in the New 52 is fucking barmy. Sometimes certain things happened, sometimes they didn't, some characters remember it, but only when they're not around other characters that they rely on having been involved in those events, but for them it didn't happen. Now Pre 52 Superman and New 52 superman exist in the same timeline despite N52 being a corruption of that timeline and shit happens inside, outside cocurrent in the future of a past that might not have happened within itself and I've gone crosseyed.

No idea if that turned out to not be true, I was just told about it by a fan and read the coverage. DC is too confused with how they handle their continuity for me to care about their comics.
Wanted to start back with the New 52, thankfully I waited for the tpbs. Batman picked and choosed what was canon, Superman was a completely new start, Swamp Thing was a direct continuation completely ignoring the reboots of other titles, so I just tried another Marvel title and a few image titles instead.

Dead Metal:
Seeing how Joker is immortal now and older than Gotham, maybe he's George Washington. Or Jesus.

That turned out not to be the case didn't it? It was just The Joker screwing with a load of mentally ill people and to show his ability to get inside peoples heads wasn't it?

I'm...also not sure what the deal is here, he's canonically been Joe Kerr since a year or so after The Killing Joke became canon. And is still the case in New 52 as far as I'm aware.

Or not, the canon in the New 52 is fucking barmy. Sometimes certain things happened, sometimes they didn't, some characters remember it, but only when they're not around other characters that they rely on having been involved in those events, but for them it didn't happen. Now Pre 52 Superman and New 52 superman exist in the same timeline despite N52 being a corruption of that timeline and shit happens inside, outside cocurrent in the future of a past that might not have happened within itself and I've gone crosseyed.

Jute88:
How about making a good story first, THEN you can try to surprise your readers with a twist?

The "twist" is all they've got anymore. Neither Marvel or DC are capable of writing great stories with well and consistently written characters to sell comics off actual genuine VALUE anymore so they just pull cheap gimmicks and twists like this all the time while butchering the characters left and right in order to coast off of the resulting controversy and this is just yet another one. This is why they advertise the twist like this instead of just writing a story that shows the Joker's true name without any real fanfare and letting the fans sell the comics from there.

Harleen Quinzel? Edward Nigma? Victor Freis?

I guarantee this nigga's name is gonna be Joseph Kurr.

That's strange. I could've sworn his name was Joker. Ah well, they'll learn eventually...

OH NO! Are you saying the Joker is just a human, and acts inoffensively when he's not wearing his clown make-up? almost like he has... a HIDDEN IDENTITY?

THM:
Somebody may already have said this, but wasn't there a Batman story where the Joker was actually Alfred? And all the other Rogues were actors.

I can't remember which one, though (sorry).

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of 'Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?' which is great and has many conflicting versions of Batman's story . It's a great story but not really part of the standard continuity.

Somebody may already have said this, but wasn't there a Batman story where the Joker was actually Alfred? And all the other Rogues were actors.

I can't remember which one, though (sorry).

Joker was Batman all along.

william1657:
Skip giving us a name and just give him a few new origin stories instead.

I liked all of the possible Joker origins so far.

Well, they already gave him a whole slew of new apocryphal origin stories very recently in the Endgame arc.

I find it funny that Joker's already pointed out the fact that this sort of thing is a bad idea. I think it was in the Brave and the Bold...

Harley: "Ain't you gonna take his mask off and see who he is?"

Joker: "And reduce my primal enemy to a mere man? Harley, my dear, I'm so disappointed in you. Where's the fun in that?

He then breaks into a song and dance number utilizing the nigh-omnipotent powers he's recently got his hands on. I loved that show...

hudsonzero:
bet its joe carr

I was thinking Joseph Kerr.

Citizen Graves:
It will probably be something really stupid like Bruce Waynes long lost brother/sister/cousin/nephew/dog or whatever. Or something even stupider. I know! They'll reveal the Joker to be biblical figure and traitor to the messiah, Judas Iscariot, who went completely mental somewhere during his ca. 2000 years of guilt-ridden immortality.

Which given how End Game went, I sadly wouldn't be that surprised.

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