Asherons Call: QotD - How Stong a Character is Elysa? Martine?

So, I'm a terrible Lorbie. Terrible.

But I know a heck of a lot more about Martine and how he came to be what he was than I do about our own Queen. To me, that seems, backwards.

So I ask all you Lorbies out there...

How strong a character is Elysa? How about Martine? In what ways have Turbine developed or not developed these characters?