Ryzom: Community Chat with Phelan, GameForge - Part 1

Editors note: This is the first version of the log from the Q/A with Gameforge so far.

Timestamps are in GMT+1 and 24h, so 14:20 = 2:20pm GMT+1 or 1:20pm GMT

Another document will be uploaded where only Q's and A's will be shown.

Further, this document will be updated with highlighted entrys made by GF (phelan). /this has now been done.

red text = GF rep writing

blue text = Questions asked that got answered, and text related to GF rep's entries.

Session Start: Tue Jan 30 14:20:12 2007

Session Ident: #Ryzom

[14:20] * Now talking in #Ryzom

[14:20] * Topic is 'Welcome to Ryzom IRC Chat'

[14:20] * Set by Zerlin on Mon Jan 29 13:04:10

[14:20] Kadael> lo phelan

[14:22] * Looking up Saesyn user info...

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[14:27] Phelan> quiet here

[14:27] sprite> usually is :p

[14:27] Chaeitch`l> oO

[14:27] sprite> im sure itll be noisy enough when its time for you to be interrogated

[14:27] Chaeitch`l> lol, check your queries :P

[14:27] Phelan> courtmartialed u mean?

[14:27] sprite> you have my sympathy :P

[14:28] Phelan> ah.. i am used to it ;)

[14:28] sprite> lol

[14:28] sprite> rather you than me

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[14:29] Shads> hello Aelia

[14:29] Aelia> hi shads

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[14:31] Phelan> worked 8 years in customer support... nothing can shock me

[14:31] sprite> lol

[14:32] Chaeitch`l> xD

[14:32] Souls_666> i like a challenge

[14:32] Shads> :P

[14:32] Chaeitch`l> sounds like my life

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[14:32] Chaeitch`l> only i didn't get paid for doing the same ;)

[14:32] sprite> lol

[14:32] Yvrelle> Q. when does Jolt csr support end

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[14:32] Phelan> we paid till the 31st

[14:32] Wolf|Xanua> hy everyone ;)

[14:33] Shads> hi joiners :)

[14:33] Yvrelle> Q. is there a csr support team ready for the !st?

[14:34] Shads> i doubt ill be doing 9am to 10pm on the 31st - will be needed for 5pm

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[14:34] Phelan> well... an emergency team ready. vince, marjo and i will make sure noone is stuck forever

[14:34] sprite> there will be if enough of the current volunteers remain :P

[14:34] Yvrelle> they are under Jolt NDAs

[14:35] Souls_666> while i cant speak for the volunteers as individuals, we do have agreements with them are currently working on reassigning them, it will be down tot he individual to discuss it with us

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[14:36] * P sets mode: +o Kalceran

[14:36] Yvrelle> So from the 1st Feb there will be no support as the game has known it for the past 2 yrs

[14:36] Yvrelle> *3yrs

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[14:37] Shads> yes ive been here 3

[14:37] Shads> its 3

[14:37] merrielyn> same :)

[14:37] Yvrelle> (2 for me)

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[14:39] Yvrelle> I am curious as to why this was not announced to the players in advance nor a team made ready to replace those leaving

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[14:39] sprite> yo jayce :p

[14:39] Jayce> Hey dude

[14:39] Jayce> freaking thing

[14:39] Shads> lo jayce

[14:39] Jayce> o/

[14:39] Phelan> Yvrelle: we could not.up till saturday we were not sure whether t move the servers or not

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[14:41] Yvrelle> Servers to be blunt are not ppl

[14:41] Yvrelle> nor subscribers

[14:41] * Anak cheers yvrelle on

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[14:43] Phelan> well.. now it is in confidential stuff again

[14:43] Phelan> sorry:(

[14:44] Yvrelle> I don't see who player customer support staff representaion can be confidential, they are the public ingame face of Ryzom

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[14:44] sprite> i think what some ppl would be interested in is why servers and jolt contract are connected...

[14:45] Jayce> *nods* and Hello Phelan btw

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[14:46] sprite> tho it might just be a coincidence? moving the servers just happened to happen this weekend, but the end of the jolt contract is something seperate

[14:46] Phelan> sprite: sorry again. all i can say it was one contract that we did not sign.

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[14:47] Jayce> As I understand it the stupport and hosting services are seperate? Could the support one not be renewed?

[14:47] sprite> so basically the moving of the servers and the dropping of jolt are unconnected events?

[14:47] Hebene> http://forums.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28562

[14:47] Final> Hello

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[14:48] Shalima|away> 12H14i

[14:48] Nariah> hi all

[14:49] Hebene> thx to Gameforge and good luck with Ryzom

[14:49] Kalceran> nickhere, type /nick yourname

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[14:52] sprite> back later ;)

[14:52] Jayce> :p

[14:52] Final> Im probably late in asking, are gf just not renewing their cintract with Jolt?

[14:52] sprite> correct

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[14:53] Kervala> hi there :)

[14:53] Jayce> o/

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[14:53] Phelan> sorry guys, i need some food..

[14:53] Phelan> bbl

[14:53] Kervala> i'm reserving my place for this evening :p

[14:53] Jayce> lol

[14:54] Kervala> good appetit Phelan :)

[14:54] Kervala> :p

[14:54] Kervala> good lunch :s

[14:54] Jayce> 3pms a good time to have it ;)

[14:54] Nariah> phelan, you said you will have a emergency team for the support starting on the 1st... why was there no talk with exsistign csr to see who will stay? then you'd have a bigger team in place, or am I missing something

[14:55] Souls_666> the current csr team is under contract or nda or covenant with Jolt

[14:56] Nariah> i see

[14:56] Kalceran> as much as we want to talk, we cant

[14:56] Nariah> so none of them will still be there, then?

[14:56] Kervala> i hope old CSRs will be able to apply :)

[14:56] Kadael> some "old" once will come back for sure ;)

[14:57] Kalceran> I dont think I will be to be fair

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[14:58] Nariah> i surely hope so that some come back., who else will lead all the new applicants

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[15:00] Kadael> the old one phrase was not positive

[15:00] Shalima|away> we will see

[15:01] Shalima|away> until now gf hasnt ask me or the others.....

[15:01] Yvrelle> 1st know of this y-day

[15:01] Nariah> oh great

[15:02] Yvrelle> and still don't know all

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[15:05] Final> man i love irc :/

[15:05] Final> Phelan is the decision not to take on the jolt staff a financial one?

[15:05] Yvrelle> he's getting food

[15:06] Jayce> Thats what they said

[15:06] Jayce> Also that the replacement services cost 40% of what jolt did, but it got removed

[15:06] Jayce> so it makes you wonder...

[15:08] Jayce> and why can't they just hire the support services and scrap the hosting >.<

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[15:09] Nariah> the main question for me really is can gameforge provide the same level and hours of support as we had the last 3 years

[15:10] Saesyn> that probably depends on what people GF decides to take on to CSR for them

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[15:11] kye> hello everyone

[15:11] Yvrelle> afternoon

[15:11] merrielyn> hello

[15:12] Souls_666> well support is split into several levels

[15:12] Souls_666> in game stuff, billing/account stuff, technical stuff and hardware (server) stuff

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[15:13] Souls_666> some ie easier to pick up, other stuff takes time and experience

[15:13] Jayce> - technical support in game and on the boards

[15:13] Jayce> - boards moderation

[15:13] Jayce> - events

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[15:13] Jayce> seems all they want so far

[15:14] * Phelan is back

[15:14] Phelan> Final: yep.pure finacial

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[15:15] Final> score

[15:15] Final> oi phelan nooo

[15:15] Nariah> well, support needs in-depth knowledge and experience, so does events

[15:15] Phelan> true

[15:15] Shads> so does billing

[15:15] Arimuun_CSRx2> Phelan: setting up new servers for Ryzom takes significant planning and preparation, what was the main reason behind GameForge's decision to publicly anounce this server-move, and thus the ending of the contract with Jolt, only at the very last minute?

[15:15] Phelan> billing stays as it is

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[15:16] Jayce> So couldn't you afford just support from Jolt? and dump the hosting?

[15:16] Phelan> Arium: up till yesterday we were not sure whether we could make it.

[15:16] Final> hmm doesnt make sense, if you knew what the community and csr are about in this game

[15:17] Final> csr are a big part of it, would make sense to keep them on

[15:17] Arimuun_CSRx2> but you were planning it, any reason why you did not anounce your plans?

[15:17] Phelan> Jayce: both is not fitting the financial needs of ryzom

[15:17] Nariah> well, a high level of support as we had up until now is what i would call fitting

[15:18] Phelan> Nariah: I would prefer driving a porsche instead of my car.. but i cannot afford it

[15:18] Yvrelle> you'd prefer a decent breakdown service tho

[15:18] Nariah> there's a big chance that many old csr won't return and then it will take much too long until all the new ones are anywhere near replacing the old ones, knowledgewise etc

[15:18] Yvrelle> and insurance

[15:18] Jayce> Well you said your replacement only costs 40% that jolt did, so can't you use some of the savings on support only? or was that ammount inacurrate?

[15:18] Shalima> so what will you do ? will there be payed support again (snrgm and gm only get paid at the moment) or will you just do support stuff with volunteers ?

[15:19] Phelan> Arimuun: we were testing the general idea of a move so we could see if we had options. this weekend we got an unbeatable offer.

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[15:20] Aelia|Work> wb heb

[15:21] Phelan> Jayce: i wont go into financial details, but even with those two savings we still have a lot work to do so ryzom does ot become for gameforge what ryzom should have ingame: a money sink

[15:21] Yvrelle> so you don't plan on investing in the game?

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[15:22] Jayce> o/

[15:22] Jayce> Morning, Seng

[15:22] Shalima> Hey Sen *hugh*

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[15:23] kye> Out of intrest, your saving money by not being with jolt, did you take into consideration the accounts which will quit because of this move? People are not going to be happy and will leave game because of this "saving money".

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[15:24] Phelan> kye: yep. if i could give you figures, you would understand, but i can't.

[15:25] sengosha> hugssss Jayce

[15:25] sengosha> hugssss Shalima

[15:25] Jayce> =)

[15:25] Shalima> 12:1414)

[15:25] Phelan> Yvrelle: we are investing. but we need to be realistic. with the current structure we would need about 6 times the paying customers we have to become profitable.

[15:25] kye> phelan, is there really a price you can put on the community, go to MMORPG.com ryzom's community is the best and people try it for that reason! the CSR are a large part of our community

[15:26] Phelan> kye: agreed. but the community itself is pretty strng

[15:26] Jayce> Ok well, many of the jolt CSR team are volunteers so why havn't they been contacted and asked to become part of this new team?

[15:26] Shalima> how long they will be strong after that ?

[15:27] Yvrelle> well if you need x6 the subs, then i'd suggest marketting

[15:28] Yvrelle> which is investment

[15:28] Jayce> Yeah, you don't get something for nothing

[15:28] Phelan> We are doing marketing a lot

[15:28] Phelan> but still, that is ot the only thing that needs to be done

[15:29] Phelan> Jayce: the volunteers now are working for jolt. i cant just write them an email "hey, come over here".Our door is open.

[15:29] Hebene> NDA

[15:29] Souls_666> ok let me step in and clarify that if i may

[15:30] * Retrieving #Ryzom modes...

[15:30] Souls_666> all the csrs currently working in the game are under either a full contract, and NDA or a cevenant with Jolt

[15:30] Souls_666> covenant

[15:30] Jayce> Can we ask details after the contract expires?

[15:30] Docan> thats why u looking for new ons ?

[15:31] Souls_666> there are issues with a third party using these volunteers when it involves contracted staff being put out of work

[15:32] Souls_666> however

[15:32] Souls_666> shouldf a volunteer contact us we will discuss it

[15:32] `MinioN> omg its busy in here

[15:32] kye> Phelan, who exactly of the ryzom support team are we loosing? Everyone?

[15:33] `MinioN> "2:31PM" <Jayce> Can we ask details after the contract expires? = usally a Jolt NDA stops the CSR/Admin from talking about Jolt stuff for 12months

[15:33] `MinioN> after they quit

[15:34] Jayce> Meh I say

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[15:35] `MinioN> man that sux

[15:37] Jayce> Well promises arn't confidental, can we ask if any of those have been broken? :p

[15:37] `MinioN> so we stand a chance of getting a load of idiots as CSRs :P

[15:37] Jayce> Yeah, thanks to none of the original team remaining to advise... great idea

[15:37] * Kalceran hides his IQ score

[15:37] `MinioN> hehe

[15:38] kye> I thought gameforge had no intentions of removing any of the CSR, its a sad state of affairs when ryzom is getting rid of the people who made it such a great place, most of the CSR have been there since the start

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[15:38] Shalima> so we have to find out when our last day is for the csr leaving event 12;1414)

[15:38] kye> tomorow shalima, i think

[15:38] Jayce> Yep

[15:39] Shalima> yeah that hurts 12:1414(

[15:39] Arimuun_CSRx2> Phelan: besides 'cutting from the cake' does GameForge have any short-term intentions of adding anything at all, allowing the current loyal playerbase something to look forward to in the near future?

[15:39] Shalima> 3years behind us and now we have to leave...

[15:40] Docan> if we contact gf -> jolt will sent a lawyer. If we don'T -> we will not be theire anymore ? Is that so ?

[15:41] Kalceran> as souls said, if a volenteer spoke to him wishing to goto GF something may be arranged

[15:41] Shalima> yeah and gf cant contact as because the lawyer

[15:41] Jayce> But why would they want to :p

[15:41] Kalceran> well I know I dont

[15:42] Kalceran> and not because I dont love ryzom, because I do

[15:42] Jayce> Right

[15:42] Shalima> bevore i will leave jolt i wana know why i should do this....

[15:43] Jayce> and because of that you have to understand it leaves us players wondering what exactly went on

[15:43] Shalima> what is it thats gf offer ? i dont think it is worth to leave our home

[15:43] kye> What i want to know is why any of should bother re subbing

[15:44] Saesyn> Please people write your questions properly =)

[15:44] Shalima> i love ryzom but i think maybe now is the time to die for me in ryzom

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[15:46] Semariel> Then you dont love Ryzom

[15:46] Docan> who ?

[15:46] Shalima> pfft dont tell me that you know nothing little semmel

[15:46] Kalceran> ok guys, lets not get into a debate on who does and does not love ryzom

[15:47] Semariel> well, Ryzom is Ryzom Shalima, Jolt is Jolt. Before Jolt, it was MDO for the german part

[15:48] Jayce> Well this seems like a waste of time, the real questions arn't/'can't' being/be answered

[15:49] Docan> he, we are loocking for a way out of this

[15:49] Saesyn> Jayce it will be better organized at 8pm GMT

[15:49] kye> My question is serious, the majority of the people in here play ryzom because of the community, a community which the CSR are a major part of, what are you bringing in to keep us from leaving? (not a threat but its true)

[15:49] Kalceran> Phelan is afk atm I believe

[15:51] Phelan> sorry.. nicotine

[15:52] aspi> hrhr

[15:52] Aelia|Work> suchti :P

[15:52] Phelan> kye: i will do everything in my powers to keep the community alive

[15:52] aspi> at least he doesnt need moar interwebs

[15:52] Phelan> we can rebuild a decent supportteam

[15:53] Kervala> Phelan> what do Gameforge plan about Ryzom Storyline ? :)

[15:53] Kervala> on Aniro, a lot of players are interrested by it :)

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[15:54] Kervala> When CSRs were leaded by Jolt, Storyline couldn't advance since the beginning :(

[15:55] Yvrelle> that was nevrax :p

[15:55] Kervala> some CSRs wanted to change that but they were fired because to their initiatives

[15:55] Shalima> storyline events came from nevrax

[15:56] Kervala> hehe you're right Yvrelle :)

[15:56] Phelan> Well.. the new event team will be in charge. our producer will validate it then

[15:56] Kervala> great :)

[15:56] Arimuun_CSRx2> Phelan: besides 'cutting from the cake' does GameForge have any short-term intentions of adding anything at all, allowing the current loyal playerbase something to look forward to in the near future?

[16:00] Kervala> Phelan> another question, sorry :) Do you know who will be in charge of validating events since Ravna has left ?

[16:00] Semariel> Ravna has left? Oo

[16:00] Phelan> well, the range combat is one thing to look forward to

[16:00] Yvrelle> (sacked)

[16:00] Kervala> yes, it seems :p

[16:01] Phelan> Kervala: Probably Guigui.

[16:01] Shalima> Ravna works for jolt so....

[16:01] Kervala> Do we know Guigui ? :)

[16:01] Zerlin> Ravna worked for Nevrax - not Jolt

[16:01] Kervala> it's a funny nick :)

[16:02] Kadael> dont spread wrong infos please she worked for Nevrax

[16:02] Kadael> not jolt

[16:02] Kadael> and the infos in german forum is wrong phelan sorry should be edited

[16:02] Shads> ravna does not work for jolt

[16:02] Shalima> 12O14kay 12s14orry so the infos on forum are wrong

[16:02] merrielyn> ravna did a great job

[16:02] Shads> she did

[16:02] Phelan> Zerlin, Kadael: not true.. neither nor.

[16:03] Shads> excuse me?

[16:03] Zerlin> she was not Jolt

[16:03] Kervala> a lot of CSRs left CSRing because to Ravna decisions :(

[16:03] Shads> are you saying ravna worked for jolt?

[16:03] Zerlin> kervala many CSRs wer 'leaky' shall we say

[16:03] Kervala> Ravna always worked for Nevrax doesn't she ?

[16:04] Souls_666> ok a heads up re ravna

[16:04] Shalima> yeah the wrong info was posted in forums

[16:04] Souls_666> before this gets too out of hand

[16:04] Kalceran> guys let souls speak

[16:04] Souls_666> this is the situation

[16:04] Souls_666> was the situation

[16:05] Souls_666> Ravna joined Nevrax as their events, storyline, live ops manager as well as several other dutues

[16:05] Souls_666> duties

[16:05] Souls_666> She was a Nevrax employee

[16:06] Souls_666> now when she moved to england it came to light that it would be expensive for Nevrax to employ someone working in another country

[16:07] Souls_666> Nevrax approached Jolt to ask for an arrangement where they paid us to handle the admin and payment of her - with a clause that she was still "their" person and could do no other duties for jolt

[16:07] Souls_666> as usual we were happy to try and help them out

[16:07] Souls_666> done

[16:08] Kervala> ok thanks :)

[16:08] Souls_666> now as for storyline advances

[16:08] Souls_666> youre blaming CS and her for that which is not correct

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[16:09] Souls_666> and to avoid this descending into a pointle4ss arguement, lets just stick to facts - well as much as we can without treading on legal toes

[16:09] Souls_666> now sometimes an event wasnt approved - ya know, sometimes not everything that you want to happen happens. Some people took this the right way and worked to come up with a more suitavble idea, some decided to lak information they knew

[16:10] Arimuun_CSRx2> leak*

[16:10] Souls_666> we're not naming anyone, but if someone leaked and was found out their position became unworkable - thats just standard in life im afraid

[16:10] Souls_666> thx ari

[16:10] Souls_666> new keyboard and fast typing are a bad mix

[16:10] Kervala> hehe :)

[16:10] Souls_666> and it shold be said that the work that the vents teams did across all the shards was awesome

[16:11] Phelan> On addition from me: When we took over Nevrax, Ravna was not on the employee list, that is why I referred to her as Jolt employee. Which is not entirely incorrect. Complicated

[16:11] Souls_666> it was a pleasure to sit back and watch some of those events play out

[16:11] Kervala> sure but the way it will done isn't adapted :(

[16:11] Kervala> event written by english CSRs and translated by other CSRs :(

[16:12] Kervala> so events were not adapted to differents communities

[16:12] Kervala> and they were a lot of poll for each shard become indenpendant

[16:12] Zerlin> each community enjoyed different styles of events - not all events worked on all shards

[16:13] Souls_666> well i believe Phelan has already said how they will do things now, can only wait and see how that pans out

[16:13] Kervala> ok :)

[16:13] Kalceran> some events wern't allowable because they contradicted the lore or for other simular reasons and so wernt played

[16:13] Kalceran> events writen by all 3 language teams were run

[16:14] Kervala> Kalceran> did you check the "Elias in the primes" event ? :)

[16:14] Kalceran> I would rather not talk about nda stuff in the open thanks kervala

[16:14] Kervala> Guild of Elias is purchased by Karavan :s

[16:14] Souls_666> guys we're kinda moving away from the point of this meeting

[16:14] Kervala> ok

[16:14] Souls_666> phelan is here to answer questions, and im sure hes as busy as the rest of us

[16:15] Souls_666> or he owes me a coffee, one or the other

[16:15] Kalceran> heh

[16:15] Phelan> well.. coffee here is excellent ;)

[16:15] Kervala> hehe :p

[16:15] Kervala> will we be able to see you in next IRL ? :)

[16:16] `MinioN> so all the CSR are being dropped, are any moving over to the "new" team ?

[16:16] Souls_666> I havent heard from anyone about them wanting to move

[16:16] Docan> so i repeat :lets just stick to facts - well as much as we can without treading on legal toes.. and give us Guids a hint how we be able to go further

[16:16] Souls_666> Docan? simple - come talk to me

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[16:17] Kervala> i think almost all CSRs will join the new team :) and perhaps some ex-CSRs :)

[16:17] `MinioN> so we getting a new CSR team made up of players doing it for free , and GF going on what the player puts down in his/her app ?

[16:17] Souls_666> yes

[16:18] Chaeitch`l> Kervala, last time scuh a thing happened only 5 german csr moved over and after a few weeks only 3 were left ...

[16:18] Shalima> have much fun with it 12:1414)

[16:18] Docan> please no ex :)

[16:18] Souls_666> im sure ex csrs who were released for one reason or another will decide to move forward, however its not like their actions are not known

[16:18] `MinioN> and how many players from GF play Ryzom , and would know a few of the players in it , to know what they are really like

[16:18] Shads> and documented

[16:19] `MinioN> as would be a major mistake just to take a player on as a CSR going by what they put in a app

[16:19] Souls_666> im sure theyre aware

[16:19] `MinioN> gonna get all the power idiots applying :/

[16:20] * Cymrys shudders

[16:20] `MinioN> idd

[16:21] kye> Do game forge plan to carry on doing real life meets?

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[16:26] Kervala> kye> that was my question :p [16:16] <Kervala> will we be able to see you in next IRL ? :)

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[16:27] kye> yea and i stole it, what ya gunna do :D

[16:27] Kervala> Hi Mayronn :)

[16:27] kye> trying to kill a boss at the same time as this, i just type what comes to my head, dont have a chance to read it all

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[16:30] Kervala> Hi YuYu :)

[16:31] YuYu> aie aie

[16:31] Kervala> Phelan> do you think the Ryzom client code will be able to be open in the future ? :)

[16:32] Kervala> for the linux or mac os version for example :p

[16:32] Docan> oh no :)

[16:32] Kervala> :p

[16:32] Kervala> only some parts :)

[16:33] Kervala> i understand some pieces of code must be closed :)

[16:33] Kervala> but for exemple, the NeL isn't mainined anymore :(

[16:33] Kervala> maintained

[16:33] Kervala> that's the Ryzom's engine with 3D, network, files, etc... runtimes

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[16:35] bahtan> [off topic]<-- scared to play in a world without sengosha-hugs[/off topic]

[16:35] sengosha> :)

[16:35] sengosha> hugsssssssssss Bahtan

[16:35] Jayce> :D

[16:35] * bahtan is relieved for the time being =)

[16:37] Kervala> Phelan> did you begin to take french courses ? :p <= THE question :p

[16:39] Shads> rather you take german ones kervala

[16:40] Kervala> i did that :p

[16:40] Kervala> that's my first stranger language in school :(

[16:41] Kervala> but i almost all forgot :p

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